Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Latest Activity: Jan 8

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on August 13, 2015 at 10:44pm

Sounds good to me, Randy! I don't "turn" my compost either. Just make a pile and leave it for a year or two while making pile two and three. I sift the oldest pile and enjoy the tedium of the task. 

Comment by Randall Smith on August 13, 2015 at 7:09am

If anybody is "lazy", I am! Well, perhaps lazy isn't the right word. More like "keep it simple". Grass clippings, autumn leaves, kitchen garbage, garden weeds, dirt--all layered or mixed up. Maybe water, flip occassionally, and wait. No sifting. Just shovel it into a wheelbarrow and spread it around. Works for me.

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 12, 2015 at 1:19pm

Joan, I second your warning about wearing holes in the toughest gloves.  I've got a similar screen that I use to separate gravel from soil, and the first pair of heavy-duty welding gloves I used had holes in the fingers very quickly.

I still use welding gloves, but I've learned to keep the fingers on the gravel, and away from the metal screen.  That seems to be working so far.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 12, 2015 at 1:11pm

Don't use your bare hands or even the toughest of gloves or you wear holes in them.

Use a sturdy dustpan to move the compost. I use both hands, one on each side of the handle and I don't get as fatigued. Make sure it has a strong edge.:

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 12, 2015 at 1:03pm

homemade compost sifter. I use a dustpan with a solid edge to move the compost back and forth. It isn't hard to do, and with a little practice, it becomes a meditation experience. I sift over my wheelbarrow and move the sifted compost to my garden. Mine looks a little like this and I have used it for 40 years. 

Homemade compost sifter

Instructions for constructing one: 

Trommel Compost Sifter by SteveGerber

DIY Compost Sifter

Here are a bunch of ideas:

Google Compost Sifter


Comment by Idaho Spud on August 12, 2015 at 8:46am

Another reason I don't compost, is because of my limited growing space.  When I bury organic matter, I can grow things on top of it. 

I'm wondering if that's why my yellow crookneck squash is so huge.  Much larger than I've ever seen before.  4 foot high, 4 foot wide, and some of the leaves are 16 by 19 inches.  I planted it on an area where I had buried a huge amount of organic matter.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on August 12, 2015 at 8:40am

I read quite a bit about composting. Then just put all my organic throwaway 'stuff' in pile, and water when I think about it. Nature has a way of helping incompetents like me!  Surprised the heck out of me to see the dark rich soil appear like magic. 

Chris, as the xtians say - 'its a mystery!'. I find that to be true of both fruit flies and regular flies. One day they are not there and the next there are tons! Where do they come from?  

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 12, 2015 at 8:03am

I never did have a standard compost pile.  From what I read, it was incompatible with my lazy nature.  I mostly do anaerobic (or partly anaerobic) composting.  I just bury the stuff, and let nature do her thing.

Well, I'm not so much lazy, as I just have too many things I want to do, and composting is way down the list.

Comment by Randall Smith on August 12, 2015 at 7:07am

Speaking of compost: I worked at my two piles yesterday. Had to remove the top layers to shovel out the composted bottom section. Then, return the "green" matter to the bottom. It takes a couple of years to rot. Seldom does my pile ever get hot--the stars have to be aligned just right! Patience is the word.

Comment by Plinius on August 12, 2015 at 12:46am

Animals always remind me how poor our senses are: I cleaned my kitchen quite thoroughly, packed the fruit and veg in plastic, left no washing up undone --- and after that I find a summit meeting of fruit flies in my blender, they seemed to think it was full of interest even after I cleaned the thing with very hot water. I couldn't see or smell anything!


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