Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Idaho Spud on January 21, 2015 at 10:04am

Yes Kathy, that dark tuber is the one I got from the grocery store.  My memory isn't clear, but it seems like it was smaller than that when I planted it.  I soaked it in water for a day or two to see if I could get rid of any anti-sprouting chemical on it.

I planted it about 9 inches deep in the compost, which I found-out is too deep.  It looks like they should be planted with the top just showing above the compost.

It took one month for the first two sprouts to show.  They grew at  2.2 inches per day and reached a height of 33 inches.  Three more sprouts showed a month later,  And three more at about one per month.

I cut the still green plants off yesterday, at 5 months, and dug-out the tubers in the picture.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 21, 2015 at 9:31am

Joan, that picture must be an optical illusion.  The onion appears to be as large as the man, but it weighs less than 19 lb.  The camera must be very close to the onion.  When I thought it was as big as him, I didn't believe it.

Comment by Daniel W on January 21, 2015 at 8:49am

I can't believe so many people have rain barrels!  That's a surprise!

What a big onion!  Slices for lots of burgers.

I have a feeling it will chill down here again for a while.  That's fine with me - I don't want early bloom then zap with a hard freeze.  Better to stay dormant longer.

Still, some of the bulbs are growing.  They are not bothered by a freeze.

Comment by Randall Smith on January 21, 2015 at 7:55am

Re rain barrels: I try to keep them covered in dry times. I also use a couple drops of motor oil which coats the surface. I'm hoping that small amount doesn't damage the garden.

Barbara, I'm blown away by your industriousness! You're an inspiration.                                                                               Spud, your ginger tubers are awesome! Bet you're glad to have your bathtub back. I've started radishes in the basement.

We're over the hump as far as temperatures are concerned. From now on, the average highs increase daily! Hurray!


Comment by Joan Denoo on January 21, 2015 at 5:28am

Barbara, I share your concern about standing water, too. 

I use fine screen over buckets or barrels. Here are some ideas:

Rain barrels with screen

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 21, 2015 at 5:15am
Comment by k.h. ky on January 20, 2015 at 6:41pm
Those are nice Spud. Anything l try indoors gets the brown edges. I gave up on indoor plants years ago. Is this the one you started from a regular grocery store bit of ginger? How long did it take to reach this size?
The past three beautiful days have made me anxious to get back in the dirt.
Comment by Daniel W on January 20, 2015 at 1:57pm

Spud, those look quite successful to me!  I grew some too, but leaving them dormant for a while.  Maybe they ripen when dried?  I don't know.

Barbara, I lived in Rochester for a few years.  Lots of lilacs there.  Jasmine sounds nice.  I would guess there are some fragrant choices for South Texas, but I don't know.  Four O'clocks have what is, to me, a subtle fragrance but I don't have a great sense of smell.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 20, 2015 at 1:39pm

I harvested my Ginger Roots today.  It looks like I only got immature ones.  I would have let them die back naturally after they matured, but I wanted my shower back, as I'm tired of washing myself out of the sink.

I put them in the bathtub so I could control the temperature, humidity, and light/dark times.  I used such a large pot that I couldn't move it out when I wanted to shower.

The leaves quickly got brown edges.  Don't know why.  Here is the leaves as of several months ago, and my harvest.  The light colored roots are immature from what I've read.  I'll find-out how immature when I eat them I guess.  They are milder than the mature ones.  The dark one is the original root I planted.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 20, 2015 at 1:28pm

Spud, ditto for me on the water getting too hot for fish. I'm trying to adhere to permaculture principles and have everything I do or plant serve more than one purpose - for now rain barrels will have to simply serve as a way of harvesting water.  I also wondered about the size of the duck pond, but when the guy wrote they spend hours in it I guess they are happy. With our heat here I imagine I would have to change the water daily, and then some. 

Kathy, yes, busy day. Stood out in middle of yard watching men install gutter system wondering if I was doing the right thing as money in my savings account would probably make me feel more secure. However, it's a good feeling knowing I'm doing something to help the environment, and being able to water all my edible landscape will make me feel terrific. :) 

I love lilacs, and being from upstate NY I remember the lovely smell of them. Just too hot for them here though. Instead I'm growing Jasmine, close but no cigar. 


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