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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on February 25, 2017 at 11:44pm

Spud, thanks for the information that plain water is better than sugar water for soaking seeds before planting. 

I look forward to learning how your garden grows this year. You have some special skills and I enjoy learning from you. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 25, 2017 at 11:41pm

Kathy, Spokane has been redesignated USDA Zone 6 from Zone 5. I don't believe it! If I were still in Spokane I would be looking for vegetable seeds that mature in 50-60 days. I don't even try to grow the more tender seeds because we always have late and early freezes. I feel sad going into my garden and seeing the ravages of late and early frosts.  Our growing season is too short. I should have moved south, except I like the lilacs, tulips, and daffodils that like cold weather. How do these plants do in your zone, Kathy? 

Comment by kathy: ky on February 25, 2017 at 5:16pm
Daniel, I don't know how much trust we can put in our zones anymore. The weather is crazy. There was a program on Vice on HBO that discussed it last night.
Comment by kathy: ky on February 25, 2017 at 5:13pm
Joan, I'm always surprised at how many old seed's will sprout. I had some that were fifteen years old do very well. It's just a little time and dirt so I figured it wouldn't hurt to try it. Over half of them came up :)
Comment by Idaho Spud on February 25, 2017 at 3:21pm

I pruned my pear tree today.  I removed all branches that overhung the road so that the pears that fall by themselves will not hit people's cars that park underneath it.  It will also be better for the trucks that pick up garbage and recycle containers.

I also removed all the tall branches so I'm not tempted to try picking the ones that grow way up there, which is dangerous.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 25, 2017 at 3:15pm

I'll watch for his second video to see if those 87 year old vegetable seeds produce good vegetables.

I'd never heard of using sugar water to help germination, so I looked for articles about it.  The 2 articles I found that tested the idea, showed that better results were had by using plain water than sugar water.

Comment by Randall Smith on February 25, 2017 at 7:47am

Well, they aren't old seeds, but I just planted "pea shoots" from peas I "stole" from my SIL, Nate. They're sitting on top of my wood burner for heat to germinate. I have no idea how they'll taste, assuming they show their faces.

I have my "hole" filled up and now will look for trees. I like the idea of a butternut. However, I hate buying trees through the mail. I'd rather go to a nursery to check them out up close. Usually, mail ordered trees die on me. I'll have to wait 'til April before nurseries have any available. By the way, we got an inch of snow overnight!

Comment by Daniel W on February 24, 2017 at 9:02pm

Joan, interesting project! 

I used the paper towel method for sprouting old seeds.  It worked really well for some 10 year old Chinese wide-pod green bean seeds last year.  Germination was only about 20% and some were distorted but there were enough for several meals of beans and save seeds for this year.  I spread them on a moist paper towel, place it into a ziplock bag, and keep in a warm place.  I also grew some hot peppers that way, from dried peppers that were in an open jar in the kitchen for about 15 years.  I wish I saved seeds from those.  I just sprouted some peppers seeds from dried peppers that I got at the Asian grocery, just for fun but I assume those are new.

Another video about sprouting old vegetable seeds, Navajo Joe.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 24, 2017 at 6:41pm

I ran across this video while looking for something to relax after a busy day. I wonder if there are any old seeds in my shed in Spokane that I haven't brought north yet. The snow is too heavy at L&L Acres to get into the greenhouse or shed. The shed in Spokane has an old box of seeds Dad had. They may be an interesting project if I attempt to grow them. The greenhouse will be perfect for that experiment in a month or so. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 24, 2017 at 1:01pm

Oops, butternuts not compatible with my USDA zone.  Will, I have too many trees anyway!

Yesterday I raked the former blackberry patch and broadcast grass seeds, then cleaned up another batch of Chinese chives.  Those are the Asian relative of garlic, narrow garlic-like strap leaves and garlic-like leaf flavor, Ning uses them as a vegetable to stuff dumplings.  They are very hardy.  I grew some as an ornamental - white flowers - when I was a kid, maybe 10 or 15 years old.  Forty years later, I found some in my parents' yard, still growing, transplanted them here.  They took off and grew very well here.   I have those and seed-grown Chinese vegetable seed company - originated bunches for wider harvest times.

 

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