Godless in the garden


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Comment by Loam Gnome on September 17, 2018 at 6:32pm

These are a big determinant of what I try to grow, and how I try to do it.  One of my resolutions is no more planting trees that will need protection from deer.  I have fenced areas that I will continue to use for deer and rabbits, for some of the vegetables.  Today there is a family of a doe and 2 fawns that are nearing adulthood.  It takes a lot of eating plum trees, apple trees, pear trees, cherry trees, squash plants, tomato plants...  to make hundreds of pounds of deer.  If I don't grow stuff that I have to protect, then I can enjoy looking at them and not feel like I'm at war.

Photos are today.  Sometimes I get close and they look at me like they want to say "OK.  I dare you to get closer!".  I'm guessing, since the tail is black, they are "blacktail deer."

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 17, 2018 at 5:00pm

I'm sorry to learn of all the lost trees and the long periods between rain. We had a heavy downpour yesterday. 

All our time and energy goes into trying to keep the smelter from being built in Newport and the effects it will have on the forests. I am going to a meeting tonight where a forester will be discussing the impact of smelter discharge on the forest --- not good, I hear. I hope to talk with him after his presentation. 

My prediction of drying soils, drying forests, massive fires appear to be his message. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 17, 2018 at 4:56pm

Daniel, yes, I use weeds as a groundcover, but I am selective in what I use. for example, purslane is an excellent protector of soils,

purslane  (portulaca oleracea)

portulaca (Portulaca grandiflora)

Broadleaf Plantain (Plantago major)

White Clover (Trifolium repens)

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 17, 2018 at 3:52pm

My avocado tree died from the cold winter.  If I buy a new one, I'll make sure I build a much better greenhouse for it to grow in before I buy it.  I'll also modify the soil to provide better drainage.  Maybe I'll also put a heating cable in the soil.

Comment by Loam Gnome on September 17, 2018 at 3:35pm
Randy, I'm also sad about your trees. Maybe it was something about this summer?

I lost a hybrid plum this summer. If I would have watered it, I think it would have survived. All of the leaves are crinkly and brown. Last year, I thought I lost a ginkgo, which died from the top - about 12 feet tall - down to what I thought was ground level. I did not immediately (or ever) remove it. It grew a new tree from about 1 foot above the ground, and by now is about 9 feet tall. It's kind of amazing. I don't know what did that. Maybe your trees will make a come-back?
Comment by Idaho Spud on September 17, 2018 at 12:58pm

Sad about your trees Randy.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 17, 2018 at 7:22am

Wow, that's too bad, Spud. We've had a unusually wet summer. I bet next year, we'll switch positions.

I'm a little bummed out seeing a pear tree die. And next to it is a grim looking persimmon tree. Wonder if it's the soil. Something's killing them. Two newly planted fruit trees aren't faring too well, either. "Suckers" at the base of them are the only evidence of life.

Garden wise, I've cleaned out all my corn stalks and weeds. Potatoes and onions are dug up. Sweet potatoes have another month. New leaves on collards and kale look promising. No worms! I planted snow peas a couple of days ago, but I don't imagine they'll grow to maturity before our first frost.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 17, 2018 at 5:33am

Most months get around 1 inch.  

June gets an average of 0.98 inch.  It did this year, but it was in the first half.  The second half of June had no rain.

July gets an average of 0.63 inch.  None this year.

August gets an average of 0.59 inch.  None this year.

September gets an average of 0.83 inch.  None so far this year.

Comment by Loam Gnome on September 16, 2018 at 6:32pm

Spud, what is the typical pattern for rain im your area?

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 16, 2018 at 2:01pm

Hasn't rained here, more than a few drops, since June 18th.  That's 3 months, and none in the forecast for next week.


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