Godless in the garden


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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2012 at 11:42pm

Idaho Spud, I was really intrigued by that table compost. It wouldn't hold even my kitchen waste because we eat a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables. I have two garden bins and a huge pile that is about 15 feet long and 2 feet tall. All my garden stuff goes in there. I lay cut flowers on top so the birds have access to flower seeds through the winter. Every year or so, I scratch out part of it, screen it, and put it in my garden beds. Great compost and billions and billions of worms (I exaggerate). 

I just finished emptying and sieving my two compost bins and piled the worm castings around plants I want to give an extra zip. I won't spread the piles until after the ground freezes. There are lots of broken egg shells, and everything else is worm castings. Truly black gold. It took about 3 or 4 days per pin to empty, but it is worth the sweat and sore muscles. 

I don't deadhead after Labor Day because I want the birds to have seeds for winter. A very large bed of phlox will last a month or so and birds swarm in there up until Thanksgiving. I don't cut back my roses until the ground gets its first frost, then I deadhead and mulch. 

I deadhead Monarda along the edges of the beds leaving seed heads down the center of the beds for birds. I am getting a second blossoming of Monarda where I dead headed about a month ago. 

The kind of gardening I do is not suitable for people who work full time and have families to consider. My dear neighbor has two elementary age children and with sports and extra school activities, they barely have time to tend to a tomato plant. They come over frequently and enjoy eating right out of my garden.  The sugar peas were so good, right off the vine ... alas, only a few peas appear infrequently now. Vines turn brown, the pea season ends. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2012 at 11:22pm

Sentient,I like your idea of planting from previously harvested garlic. I planted some in too wet soil this year and they turned out mushy. Dry soil late in the season resulted in better garlic quality. I do fertilize heavily with high nitrogen fertilizer. None of my head are nearly as large as your. I'll plant in tubs this month and get better control over water and keep track of varieties this time. A good source of information is :

The Egyptian Walking Onion

from a grower in Garfield, WA, just south of Spokane. She describes how to use them in cooking. 

Your raised bed looks perfect for effective and efficient working.  

I have never heard of "potato onions"; do you recommend them? Your plant sources from your parents' garden provides a nice memory. 

Planting your onions on 9/11 makes a nice memorial. Some may not see the value of onions, but after a season or two of growing your own leaves gentle memories of days gone by. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 14, 2012 at 8:33am

Sentient, your raised beds sound great.  Maybe I'll get the ambition to make one.  You and Joan talk about them enough to give me the desire.  Thanks.

Your talk about garlic gave me the reminder to go to the Farmers Market tomorrow and buy 10 or more varieties to try.  I'm going to keep much better track of what I plant from now on, so I can make good judgments about what I like and what does well here.

Joan, that's interesting.  I don't think watching worms would bother me, but it seems like extra work, because I'd want a larger one outside as well.  Right now I have a small container in the kitchen that I empty on the large compost pile outside every day.  That table does give me an idea though.  I wonder if a large bag, or several smaller ones, outside would work.  I'm thinking it would give my pile more oxygen than it gets now, because I'm lazy about turning it.

The temperature here for the last week has been in the 70s, and 40s at night, with 40 degrees being the lowest it reached so far.  The forecast for next week is 80s and 50s.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 13, 2012 at 9:44pm

Digestive Table

I have never seen an idea like this before and I am not sure I would want to eat as I watch worms. However, the concept intrigues me. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 12, 2012 at 11:13am

 Idaho Spud, Historically, my first killer frost was 8/11/2011. I keep track of the earliest. I haven't kept tract of first frost ... I shall start this year. Thanks for the question. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 12, 2012 at 7:11am

Joan, is the cold weather at your place normal for this time of year?

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 11, 2012 at 11:10pm

I like my seedy Concords better than seedless as well. By the way, frost is getting closer. My tomatoes stopped blooming and I eat the Sun Gold faster than they can ripen. They are so good. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 11, 2012 at 3:36pm

Thank you very much for the compliments Joan.

The temperature here hasn't fallen below 50 deg yet.  It's predicted to reach a low of 45 this week, but it's usually warmer at my place.

My cabbage and cauliflower are taking-off like gangbusters now the temperatures have dropped from the daytime highs of around 98 to 78.

Sentient, YES!  I would love some cuttings!  I'll give you my address in a private message.

I planted an Edelweiss white grape a year ago.  It had two shoots this spring, but one of them broke-off when they reached about 1.5 feet.  I think the wind did it because it's shoots are unusually brittle.  After it reached 4 feet, the top 2 feet of leaves turned yellow.  Don't know why, but the main vine is now at 9 feet and the leaves on the top 5 feet are green.

I keep my garden log on my computer.  I only started this year and don't remember to write as much as I want to, but I'll get better!  It just dawned on me that some of the things I write here can be copied and pasted into that log.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 11, 2012 at 9:49am

It got down to 35 degrees last night in Spokane. My daughter lives 50.1 miles north of me near Newport, WA. and they had 31 degrees last night. 
Idaho Spud, you are becoming quite the horticulturalist! Your comments delight me and encourage me that gardeners are coming along behind my generation. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 11, 2012 at 8:58am

I want to reach-out, grab some, and pop them in my mouth.

I've read quite a bit on your blog (wow, you have a lot written), and I saved your paragraph about grape cuttings, as I want to try it next year.

 I'm trying a tree cutting this year from a nice-looking and delicious crab apple tree I found decorating the entrance to a new subdivision.


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