Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by k.h. ky on June 7, 2015 at 12:01pm
Hugelkultr(sp)? Since the clay soil can be both wet or dry I'm not sure whether to trench it a little or raise it. Does anyone have any suggestions??
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 7, 2015 at 12:01pm

Joan, that's interesting Fire Ant Hill art.  I feel a little sorry for them, but not much.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on June 7, 2015 at 11:01am
Kathy those are beautiful.

I am growing seedlings of the common midwestern milkweed, Asclepius syriaca. I think they are quite elegant. Probably wont bloom until next year. Currently about 4 inches tall. I think they miss the hot humid midwest.

Joan I really hope your hydrangia survives. Scentimental plants mean a lot to me too. I have sempervivum and garlic chives from my parents yard. My dad collected ginkgo seeds for me. I planted them in flower pots when I lived in Chicago. We brought them to WA and planted in the yard in Vancouver. In 2012 we bought the Battleground WA place. I dug up the smallest and moved it here. I also started some from seeds I collected locally. Those are big enough to use as rootstock, I plan to take scion from the 30 ft tall ginkgo, graft onto the seedling stock, snd pkant that here too. The smaller one that I moved has really taken off, now about 9 foot tsll.

For what it's worth, we moved Lilac suckers and offshhots midsummer. They got lots of watering, survived and bloomed the second year.
we also moved iris midsummer. No problem, that's a good time to move them.
Comment by k.h. ky on June 7, 2015 at 10:39am
That's it Joan!
Comment by Randall Smith on June 7, 2015 at 6:55am

That was fun to watch, Joan. I wonder how many can's worth of aluminum it takes?

Comment by Plinius on June 7, 2015 at 12:24am

That's a beautiful cast of their tunnels!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 6, 2015 at 11:22pm

I know there are some who object to this process, however, it is interesting how complex a fire ant hill is. I must say, I can't feel sorry for the death of the fire ants. They are vicious creatures. I do like the plain old ordinary ants that help my peonies open up each summer. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 6, 2015 at 11:17pm

Kathy, is this what your asclepias tuberosa looks like? 

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 6, 2015 at 11:13pm

A gardner needs to learn to be ruthless. When a tree needs to go, get it done, even if you cry with each stroke of the chain saw. 

If you plant too few seeds, you may not get a harvest, if you plant too many, you may have to thin them out. 

If you want a treasured plant moved, then grit your teeth and take the plunge. 

I successfully potted up and transplanted remnants of all my grandmothers' and great-grandmothers plants to the Generation Garden at my daughter's place. I am very nervous about a plant that was given to me by the family of a neighbor who was an English Shakespearean actor. He was Santa Clause at my Yule parties, and he told the neighborhood children wonderful stories in my back yard while he was alive. Those children no longer are children, they are all grown up. We had his memorial service in my back yard and his family gave me a Strawberry and Vanilla Hydragea after our celebration of his life. I just hope I can successfully move that plant. 

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 6, 2015 at 10:55pm

Kathy, you are so very far ahead of me. I have not seen any chrysalis, and since my plants are all intact have not been eaten I guess there is no activity. :(


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