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Comment by Randall Smith on November 13, 2016 at 7:14am

Speaking of composting: I have 3 piles in different locations. Unfortunately, I don't leave any one pile alone to do its thing. I keep tossing leaves, grass clippings, etc. on top of each because of convenience, depending on where I am in the yard. I need to remove the top uncomposted layers and shovel out the bottom and spread on the garden. Sounds like a good thing to do today! That and remove tomato plants that died two nights ago in our first freeze of the season.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 13, 2016 at 1:24am

Kathy, just a note about pruning lilacs, They set bud immediately after the flower hits peak. If you cut the bushes back at this time of year you lose a year of blossoms. You can cut out the dead seed head at anytime. But look at the place where last year's bloom was and you can see next year's blossom. 

My Dad used to trim the shrubs in the fall, including the lilacs. I told him about the loss of next year's blossom, and stubborn Belgian that he was, he trimmed all the lilacs back and we had no blooms the following spring. 

I know from where I get my stubborn streak! Laura's too. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 12, 2016 at 10:00pm

I had a crew come this week to machete out my garden. It grows so profusely, we couldn't get through the jungle-like growth. Two of the men are from San Salvadore and they said my garden felt like home, except colder. 

I asked them to save the clippings and pile them up for a compost pile. They had not heard of Permaculture and had never piled the trimmings for any other customer. Now all I need is a couple of 5 gal buckets of chicken manure to toss on top and then a layer of dirt. It doesn't take long for that stuff to become black gold. 

I have an old pile in another part of the garden and it is as nice as anything one can buy in an expensive nursery. I can no longer do the work, but I will have some younger folks in the family spread it around in my boxes and borders. 

This autumn's colors looked like jewels hanging off branches. Less sunlight turned the leaves all shades of reds, yellows, and bronze, and the weather didn't freeze them. We had an extended autumn. 

So very beautiful!

Comment by kathy: ky on November 12, 2016 at 1:49pm
I started pruning the butterfly bushes. But we're still having such warm days they've not died totally back. In our area they need to be pruned back to ground level every fall. Otherwise they split and die out in the center. I left most of the green branches standing because they are still trying to bloom.
I pruned the wisteria. I still have three lilacs that need to be cut back to about three ft. And I haven't even started on the grasses!
Comment by Plinius on November 12, 2016 at 12:54pm

Good work, very calming and strengthening for your system! Even the muscle pain can be a good feeling.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 11, 2016 at 7:04am

Wow, Daniel! Those are some big persimmons! I'm glad you're finally enjoying the fruits of your labor--literally!

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 9, 2016 at 10:28am

A deciduous tree catches sparks, leaps into flame and starts the conifers like a hot ember, especially during drought. The conifers burn the oils and pith and creating massive torches.

I could be wrong. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 9, 2016 at 7:09am

The one good thing about a garden, food, the weather, nature, golf, my bowel movements, etc., etc., is: they are nonpolitical. "What, me worry?"

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2016 at 4:09pm

Wouldn't you know it, people get dramatic about the littlest things! I wish I had room here at my Spokane home; Laura doesn't want deciduous trees planted because of the fire risks. The forest isn't drying out now, however, we are making a lot of room for the fire barrier. They have no springs on their property or streams. The water comes from wells and it takes every bit of well water to service their two homes that draw from it. 

I understand Ginkgos tolerate dry as well as wet. Is that your experience? There is a piece of property lower than their place that has lots of springs, streams, and a high water table. I sure would like to own that piece of group for an orchard.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 7, 2016 at 10:39pm

Daniel, I enjoyed the avocado & ghosts of evolution videos and story of the female Gingko biloba 

Ginkgo Trees Stink Up Cities When Seeds Fall

"[T]he seeds smell something like a mix of vomit and putrid cheese."

"When young, female ginkgos—the seed-producing kind—are impossible to tell apart from male trees. It takes a female at least 25 years to produce its first seeds, and even then, only females planted within close vicinity of a male end up doing so."

"Ginkgo seeds smell horrible, and their toxic flesh may cause rashes. But every fall, they are at the center of a citywide scavenger hunt.

“We eat them,” Wang Tong said as she looked for fallen seeds under several ginkgo trees."

"At over 200 million years old, they survived whatever killed the dinosaurs, and some of them withstood the atomic bomb blast that struck Hiroshima in 1945.

“They leafed out again the following spring,” said Peter Crane, dean of Yale University’s school of forestry and author of a recent book on the ginkgo tree"

This is, indeed, a remarkable tree. I tried repeatedly to get one started in my west garden and they just did not like the soil or the air or the neighbors. Happily, you were able to get them to grow, Daniel. Have any of them turned out to be female?

The photo of your Persimmons look so festive. 

 

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