Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: 16 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Randall Smith on January 5, 2016 at 7:25am

It's January, but I'm still harvesting produce from my garden. From on top, I have Brussels sprouts and collards and arugella. If I remove a ground cover, I have carrots and parsnips. It's all about to end however. Gonna get really cold next week.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 3, 2016 at 1:21am

Oh! Yes! Chris, they exist and most parents and teachers do all they can to squish the life out of them.

Comment by Plinius on January 2, 2016 at 11:48pm

I'd love such a child, but I've never known if they were for real. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 2, 2016 at 3:30pm

Daniel, she represents the kind of student I enjoyed in my classroom. The troubled and troubling kids landed in my care and we both grew. 

Comment by Daniel W on January 2, 2016 at 12:57pm

Here's an adorable little atheist gardener who doesn't let bullying priests and concerned mom stop her.


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Comment by Daniel W on January 2, 2016 at 10:16am

Randy, I am very much looking forward to Spring.  There are more projects planned than I can say.  Plus I really want to see the fruit trees bloom and start to produce, and the vegetable garden get started.

Image is from landscape planting at work.  Even winter has it's beautiful scenes.

Comment by Randall Smith on January 2, 2016 at 7:39am

I concur with the two of you that living in "the country" is much more satisfying that urban dwelling. You both sound happy and content, despite going through the ordeals of cancer. Working outdoors in our gardens gives us all something to look forward to. Can't wait for Spring! In fact, I had to laugh out loud when my 6 yr old grandson asked me yesterday, "when does Spring come?"!

Comment by Daniel W on January 1, 2016 at 7:53pm
What a beautiful setting! Your knowledge of the geology only makes it more beautiful.

There are lots of places on Craigslist that have used plastic food-grade barrels here. I guess the local Frito-Lay factory, among other places, gets a lot of materials in one-use durable plastic barrels that need disposal once they are used. They need alteration and fittings, but in the end we wind up with a passive, no use of power or pumps that need repairs, no expensive filters, gravity-fed, gravity-draining, good quality water for gardening. Some users have a method to flush the first roof runoff from a rain, but I dont think I need that for nonpotable watering.

I wonder if redwoods or sequoia woukd survive there. I love pine wood. Dont care much for fir, splinters too easily. is the cedar fragrant like midwest cedar? Those were really a type of Juniper, beautifil red wood with wonderful fragrance.

Today cleared more brambles. Not hard work, just needs persistence and dont try to clear too fast. In the end, we gain about 1/4 acre more to enjoy.
Comment by Joan Denoo on January 1, 2016 at 12:55pm

Daniel, we do not have rain barrels, tho we have discussed it. The aquifer from which we pump is lowering. If thaw comes slowly the snow will refresh our water source; we have heavy snows now, but the snow pack continues to be inadequate to restore the water. The coming weeks and months will tell us. However, we need to collect water from our roofs. 

I am so very content here; I honestly feel I am home. The forest was once a cedar forest, but after logging, nature replanted the mountains. 

The valley's all have glacial dust, sand and gravels; they have extraordinary fertility yielding high-quality grasses and grains. The mountains came back to life with pines and firs, crowding out any new cedar growth. Loggers consider pines and firs  "weed trees"; they have shallow roots and grow tall, making good telephone poles. 

Laurie, my granddaughter, has strong, steadfast young partner. He is the one who offered to build and created our terraces to the south of Laura's home. His father cut timber his whole life and Zac grew up at his father's elbow, logging and operating in forests. Zac offered to help me get some cedars started. My hope is to manage the growth and restore the old timber. That huge cedar root bulldozed off this spot and that I can see from my bedroom is a reminder of a once grand forest. 

Thank you for the information on water storage options. I like your idea of hooking up smaller barrels in a manifold arrangement. That would work on our raised bed because they are downslope from the house. We could collect water from the shed for greenhouse tank.

Comment by Daniel W on January 1, 2016 at 11:39am

Joan, I'm very glad you are happy.  I have worried about the changes that you have had to make, and how they affect you.  I think the rustic life has a great deal to offer, and can be so much more rewarding than urban or suburban life, if someone has the temperament for it.  Which I do too.

I have a question - I assume your water is from a well.  Are you also storing rainwater?

Here in the summer, watering the garden is probably 90% of our water use.  I expect next year to be hotter and more dry.  Our well  has a great deal of sediment, slows the flow and requires filtering to be palatable.  The filters clog and need frequent replacement.  Rain water stored  for gardening would add months if not more to the life of the filters.

I put  in one 50gal barrel.  It filled up in one afternoon of drizzle, and drains only about 1/4 of the roof .  I already had that barrel, moving it from the old house.

I was thinking about one of these - about $100 for 275 gallons, plus $35 for the fittings. I think these are used in food manufacturing, and are listed as food grade.  I could hook up smaller barrels in a manifold or bank, but more work and parts might cost as much.  Above ground only, and only for gardening and chickens.  Although the water is much more pure, no salts, no sediment, but maybe impurities from dust / bird waste on the roof, and algae may grown in it.

 

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