Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 16 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 24. 3 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 1:35pm

Thanks, Chris. I wonder if you have some stories o share. I know you were in a dysfunctional family. Did you find solice in books, daydreaming, or did you have a "cookie person"?

When I worked at the boys' ranches, I could usually tell if a boy had a cookie person at home, a relative, neighbor, mailperson, someone who listened and comforted the boy. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 1:32pm

Yes, Joan, I think your three little rascals were a little smarter than bunnies.

Comment by Plinius on September 7, 2016 at 1:06pm

Nice stories, Joan!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 12:34pm

Spud, so you know how to raise rabbits! Great. Don't let that treasure get away from you. 

P.S. the rabbits never got out of the wire fencing but my three little rascals did. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 12:33pm

or, get wire fencing that is heavy enough that you can move it, and move it around the grass until all the grass is chopped down and fertilized. Just be sure to move the fence often enough that the ground doesn't become over-fertilized.

That was the method I used when my three children were babies to about three years old. We had three pet rabbits. Don was in Viet Nam and I lived in a small house with a huge lawn. I didn't like to mow, so Mom and Dad got us three rabbits, each a different color so that each child had their pet rabbit. I had to move the fence myself and this fence was very easily managed. 

When Don came home from Viet Nam I used the fence for the kids to keep them in hand when they were little. Remember, all three are within 5 months and 13 days of each other; an adopted son and a twin boy and girl. They were three years old when we moved on base at Ft. Lewis and I had quite a time keeping an eye on them. I dressed them all in bright red and blues and green colors. I went to great lengths to keep them controlled while I went to the bathroom. On those occasions when they got out of the fence or house, which was far too often, the kids would wander around together. If they got scared, they would look at each other and then buck up their courage and go farther. The M.P.s brought them home, or the neighborhood knew that if the kids were wandering I was probably on my toilet and the kiddos got loose. Luckily, we lived on base and were well protected from outside elements. That didn't keep them safe from cars or animals. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 12:24pm

Joan, I remember my dad doing similar things raising rabbits.  He had many hutches full and grew lots of alfalfa for them.  We ate rabbit on a regular basis.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 12:14pm

Spud, you have black gold running around your yard. Here is an idea to turn the problem into a solution. 

Find or get some wire that is big enough to throw your kitchen and garden waste into, put a water source that attaches to the sides, and put a box or something where the bunny can stay dry and out of the weather. Keep a supply of carbon, dry leaves, straw, grass clippings or yard waste to throw on top of the heap and that would keep the fly population down. Put your bunny on top of the pile, and voilà, you make the finest compost you can make. Keep the pile well watered, except where the rabbit's home is.

Or, build a rabbit hutch. When I was a kid, we always had rabbits. Mom and Dad ate them but I named them, and I couldn't eat them. Dad put wire mesh on the floor of the hutch so the urine and dropping flowed to a concrete platform that was built to drain water. He just washed down the platform every morning, and there never was any unpleasant debris. The water with the droppings and urine flowed into a catch basin. He designed a watering system using rain gutters to use gravity to run the fluids and droppings into furrows that ran down the slope of vegetables. He moved the rain gutters to a different row each time the fertilized water reached the end of the trench. Our garden was lush, and all the plants were deeply watered. We had nice sweet and not bitter lettuces, and cucumbers were delicious. Dad was quite an engineer and could make just about anything.  He was an outstanding designer, inventor, and builder.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 11:13am

Thanks for the rabbit recipe Daniel.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 7, 2016 at 10:28am

Wow, Spud, that's getting cool. Wish we would cool down (93 today). Sounds like you have a new pet!

Glad you noticed the "invitation", Joan, for the kid's dinner. All the work--set up, food prep, etc., is done by a caterer, but the food and location is provided by Nate and Emily. I plan to attend, of course. I shouldn't have to pay.  After all, it is my land!

And to answer your question, no, I don't have raised beds except potatoes, squash, and strawberries.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 6:23am

The weather here has become cold the last few days, with a nighttime low of 39° F one night, and a daytime high of 60°.


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