Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Plinius on September 7, 2016 at 1:06pm

Nice stories, Joan!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 12:34pm

Spud, so you know how to raise rabbits! Great. Don't let that treasure get away from you. 

P.S. the rabbits never got out of the wire fencing but my three little rascals did. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 12:33pm

or, get wire fencing that is heavy enough that you can move it, and move it around the grass until all the grass is chopped down and fertilized. Just be sure to move the fence often enough that the ground doesn't become over-fertilized.

That was the method I used when my three children were babies to about three years old. We had three pet rabbits. Don was in Viet Nam and I lived in a small house with a huge lawn. I didn't like to mow, so Mom and Dad got us three rabbits, each a different color so that each child had their pet rabbit. I had to move the fence myself and this fence was very easily managed. 

When Don came home from Viet Nam I used the fence for the kids to keep them in hand when they were little. Remember, all three are within 5 months and 13 days of each other; an adopted son and a twin boy and girl. They were three years old when we moved on base at Ft. Lewis and I had quite a time keeping an eye on them. I dressed them all in bright red and blues and green colors. I went to great lengths to keep them controlled while I went to the bathroom. On those occasions when they got out of the fence or house, which was far too often, the kids would wander around together. If they got scared, they would look at each other and then buck up their courage and go farther. The M.P.s brought them home, or the neighborhood knew that if the kids were wandering I was probably on my toilet and the kiddos got loose. Luckily, we lived on base and were well protected from outside elements. That didn't keep them safe from cars or animals. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 12:24pm

Joan, I remember my dad doing similar things raising rabbits.  He had many hutches full and grew lots of alfalfa for them.  We ate rabbit on a regular basis.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2016 at 12:14pm

Spud, you have black gold running around your yard. Here is an idea to turn the problem into a solution. 

Find or get some wire that is big enough to throw your kitchen and garden waste into, put a water source that attaches to the sides, and put a box or something where the bunny can stay dry and out of the weather. Keep a supply of carbon, dry leaves, straw, grass clippings or yard waste to throw on top of the heap and that would keep the fly population down. Put your bunny on top of the pile, and voilà, you make the finest compost you can make. Keep the pile well watered, except where the rabbit's home is.

Or, build a rabbit hutch. When I was a kid, we always had rabbits. Mom and Dad ate them but I named them, and I couldn't eat them. Dad put wire mesh on the floor of the hutch so the urine and dropping flowed to a concrete platform that was built to drain water. He just washed down the platform every morning, and there never was any unpleasant debris. The water with the droppings and urine flowed into a catch basin. He designed a watering system using rain gutters to use gravity to run the fluids and droppings into furrows that ran down the slope of vegetables. He moved the rain gutters to a different row each time the fertilized water reached the end of the trench. Our garden was lush, and all the plants were deeply watered. We had nice sweet and not bitter lettuces, and cucumbers were delicious. Dad was quite an engineer and could make just about anything.  He was an outstanding designer, inventor, and builder.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 11:13am

Thanks for the rabbit recipe Daniel.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 7, 2016 at 10:28am

Wow, Spud, that's getting cool. Wish we would cool down (93 today). Sounds like you have a new pet!

Glad you noticed the "invitation", Joan, for the kid's dinner. All the work--set up, food prep, etc., is done by a caterer, but the food and location is provided by Nate and Emily. I plan to attend, of course. I shouldn't have to pay.  After all, it is my land!

And to answer your question, no, I don't have raised beds except potatoes, squash, and strawberries.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 6:23am

The weather here has become cold the last few days, with a nighttime low of 39° F one night, and a daytime high of 60°.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 7, 2016 at 6:20am

Don't know if the back bunny is male or female.  It briefly crossed my mind that I might see some babies.  That would probably require some action.

If I start seeing too much damage, I'll put something one bottom edges of my gates, which is where the bunny most likely got in, and then shoo it out, or grab it and put it out.  

I should be able to catch it because it's quite tame.  I've leaned down to look it in the eyes several times with no reaction on it's part.  The only time it moved away a few inches, is when my size 14 shoes got too close to it.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on September 6, 2016 at 9:09pm
Spud, in case your rabbit starts eating valuable garden plants, here's a link to a recipe for rabbit cacciatore

I'm vegetarian. Therefore I can't vouch for the flavor.

Those high desert locations would take me some time to get used to as far as gardening goes. Still I'm sure there's a lot that thrives.

Joan, one of my main gardening rules, is to grow what I enjoy growing. Which seems like about anything. There is an aspect of nostalgia, so there are some things my parents and grandparents grew. Corn, tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, marigolds, peppers, and apples, plums, cherries. There are also many things they could not have imagined.

Anyway, this year I grew Roma tomatoes to dry. Sundries tomatoes are expensive, so that saves some money. We also dried other tomatoes, Asian pears, plums, cherries. Squashes and pumpkins last 9 months to a year, and I prep some for cooking by baking until soft, purée, measur into 1 or 2 cup amounts, and freeze. I also shredded zucchini to freeze for later cooking. Some apples will keep several months in a cool place.

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