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Comment by Idaho Spud on January 26, 2017 at 5:21pm

I received some Golden Cross Bantam Hybrid (su) Corn seeds  today.  I didn't notice the word "Treated" when I ordered, but noticed in the package, it said they were treated with "Thiram, Captan or similar", and they had some red stuff on them.  

It also said to wash hands after touching.  I got them through Amazon because I couldn't find any su types at my favorite seed sites.

I don't like that, but I'll plant them anyway, and try to remember to read more carefully next time.

Anyway, it's been probably 10 years since I've planted corn in this small garden, and I'm looking forward to a taste treat this summer.

Comment by Randall Smith on January 24, 2017 at 7:35am

As they say, it must be the water. Crazy.

Comment by Daniel W on January 23, 2017 at 9:48pm

Gestation time for hamsters - "The gestation period or pregnancy can vary between species, ranging...

Did you name the babies "Jesus-1, Jesus-2, Jesus-3...."?

Comment by Thomas Murray on January 23, 2017 at 8:39pm

Someone claimed it is the Virgin Mary reincarnated into a hamster....

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 23, 2017 at 3:06pm

Strange.  I'd aim a camera at the hamster and record it constantly to see whats up.

Comment by Thomas Murray on January 23, 2017 at 2:49pm

Speaking of seeds.....years ago we bought an Asian hamster for my oldest son...cute little thing and cuddly. A weeks later, she had babies....7 of them. All grew up healthy and were given away. Another two weeks went by and viola! ...more babies! What the hell! There are no males around yet something is "seeding" her.

And yet, third time around she had 5 more babies.

Comment by Daniel W on January 22, 2017 at 4:50pm

Spud, last year I germinated bean seeds that we have had in the basement in envelopes for 10 to 15 years.  Only about 10% grew, and some of those were sick looking plants, but I got enough to regenerate the variety.  Since these were descended from Chinese beans and I have never seen them in catalogs, I was happy.  That's unusually long for beans.

I've grown peppers and tomatoes from 10 year old seeds.  One of the pepper types was from a package in the kitchen that sat on the shelf for at least 10 years.

I test similar to how Joan does.  I put them in a moist paper towel, fold it, and place in a ziplock bag.  With those beans, I germinated them that way then carefully transplanted the seeds into containers.

Corn and onion seeds are thought only to last 1 or 2 years.  It really depends on the species.

I have a collection of seeds that I draw from each year.  It's too many but I hate throwing them away.  For some, when I plant new seeds I mix them equal parts with old seeds because they need thinning out anyway.  I do that with radishes, carrots, greens, lettuce. 

In Israel, some date palm seeds were found at an archeological site, 2,000 years old.  One has been germinated and has grown into a tree, dubbed "Methasulah".  It's important because this species has been extinct for many centuries.  Most likely, date seeds are very durable and long lasting, and it was in a dry protected archeological site which helped.

I keep mine in a plastic box that doesn't seal completely.  My basement is cool and dry, not damp.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2017 at 4:25pm

OR, I finally found Daniel's Blog,

"Growing Greener in the Pacific Northwest"


Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2017 at 4:12pm

Spud, seeds are viable as long as they are viable. Some die quickly, some remain viable for centuries, i.e. Egypt and ancient Inca seeds have been viable. 

To test, wet a paper towel, put a few seeds on it, cover with another wet paper towel. Check the seeds after a day, a week, a month, and if they sprout, perhaps the others in the pack will sprout. No guarantees the other seeds are viable or not. 

When I have questionable seeds that I don't care if they are viable, I add them to the bird seed mix in the feeder or throw in a small patch I have fenced off so cats and hawks can't get the birds as they feed on the hand-tossed seeds.  

Or, I dry seeds on a metal surface in a dark place that is not damp and where mice can't get to them. When they are dry, I put them in labeled jars and put them in the freezer. 

Or, I leave them in the seed pack and store them in a dry place where mice can't get to them. Mice love flower and vegetable seeds and they can smell them as easily as you and I smell bacon frying from outside. I keep the packets in a metal tin, usually the kind in which Christmas fruit cakes come. Be sure to wash and dry the tin and lid thoroughly or you will open the tin to mold.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 22, 2017 at 3:36pm

I've also not stored my seeds properly.


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