Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2015 at 3:51pm

This is a good start, from Asta Jankuniene‎ Edible Lawns.

I would get rid of the grass. Perhaps chips or ground cover, or whatever works. I can't imagine mowing this piece of ground. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2015 at 2:50pm

Barbara, where are you? Are you healthy and working hard on that very special piece of ground? 

Comment by k.h. ky on March 22, 2015 at 2:19pm
Pawpaw trees are commonly found growing wild in ky. I remember my gmother loved them. She said it was one of the few sweets she had as a child.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2015 at 1:46pm

Daniel, The thought of you pollinating all those blossoms just makes my heart jump! What a lover of natural processes. Thinking of all those different varieties of fruits, blooming into the season, and producing their kind must be a sight to behold. 

Your experiment gives evidence, even as it is anecdotal.

I will take mental walks through your orchard. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2015 at 1:33pm

Randy, I will try sending it again. Michael Pollan On Joel Salatin's Polyface Farm

Perhaps Spud is our link to each other. He forwards Ruth's photos or videos

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 22, 2015 at 9:09am


The neighbors probably think I'm bonkers, going from fruit tree to fruit tree dabbing the blossoms with a paintbrush.  Since I started doing that, yields went from almost nothing to more of some varieties than we can eat.  Not proof, but good enough for me.  Maybe local insects are less active in cool wet weather.  Or there are other pollen and nectar bearing plants they like better.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 22, 2015 at 9:01am

Oh Daniel, how I envy you. I just sit and wait. And for you to hand pollinate your blossoms, amazing.

Joan, I'm having difficulting with your post/video of Pollan on Salatin. Of course, I'm quite familiar with both of them--great admirer. So's my S-I-L. Another try coming up.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 22, 2015 at 7:52am

Chris, I'm excited about your garden!  I hope it gives you peace and comfort!

Don, isn't it great to be out in the countryside, where you can take part in the seasonal rhythms?

Randy, in a short time you will face the opposite, with more to do than you can handle!

Joan, I wish we were neighbors, so I could stroll down the street and peek into your garden, with all of the comforts and history that you grow.

As for me, yesterday was grafting day.  I had bought scion from Fedco in Maine, which sells 8-inch sticks from heritage varieties of apples and plums - along with the regular nursery trees, seeds, and supplies.  The scion wood came this week, so Saturday I grafted 5 varieties of apple onto a young Jonathan (actually a redder Jonathan sport, Jonared), that I planted last year.  That will give lots of pollination choices within the same tree, a long period of bearing ripe fruit, something to putter and prune, and a chance to sample the different flavors.  I also added 3 heritage plum varieties to a plum I already multi-grafted last year.   The cultivars long predate modern ones, many of which are adapted to either the California climate (stone fruit) or to industrial agriculture (all fruit, especially apples), and are disease resistant, to avoid need for chemicals - I researched each variety.   Sort of a miniature agricultural research station, all in a few trees.  The new ones wont bloom this year of course, but sometimes I get to sample at least one taste the following year, and much more in 2 years. 

Not wanting to wait for bees, I also used an artist's paintbrush to transfer pollen among varieties of peach, and among varieties of plum, and ditto for Asian pears.  Some are beginning to bloom, and others almost done.  After these, apples buds are ready to open, then cherries and my first potential little crop of pawpaws. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 21, 2015 at 2:38pm

Don, each photo of that view is so different from the others. The only constant is change! What a marvel to behold!

Comment by Don on March 21, 2015 at 2:11pm

Glad to see so many gardening seasons already well underway.  Here in northern Vermont, I am only now starting my leeks, tomatoes, basil, and crucifers--indoors, of course. 

Here is my garden last May 18 and just two days ago, March 19.  See how deeply the blueberries 9on the left) ire still buried.  A lot can hapen in two months' time.


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