Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Randall Smith on March 8, 2015 at 8:25am

Joan, I wish I had a view like that. But, I appreciate what I do have. I try not to think about the grass being greener....

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 8, 2015 at 1:55am

I am really quite fortunate to live in such a beautiful city and so rich in ancient history. 

Comment by Plinius on March 8, 2015 at 1:23am

Beautiful place, Joan!

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 8, 2015 at 1:16am

Standing on an outcrop of basalt, looking over the perennial garden at the planting shed at the top of the hill. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 8, 2015 at 1:08am

Daniel, thank you for that photo of blossoms! Is it a Kwanzan cherry? 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 7, 2015 at 7:59pm

Joan that is so beautiful.  I love how you include your geographic history in your description.  It adds so much depth to the meaning.

For those who are in the midst of winter - you are not far behind here.  If we are getting bloom, you will soon.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 6, 2015 at 8:34am

Nice pictures, Joan.

Good info, Daniel. I get the peach leaf curl disease, too.

Comment by k.h. ky on March 5, 2015 at 7:37pm
Joan, can I come live with you. Lol Not only is the weather better the parks are close.
Our snow topped out at 25''during the twelve hour storm.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 5, 2015 at 10:56am

Because I live on one of those pancake-like lava flows that make up the Columbia Plateau Basalts, my ground is in a dip in the pancake. Cold coming down the mountain settle in my garden as it moves down into the Spokane River valley. This little patch holds the cold air when ground around this neighborhood is frost free. 

This is a lovely spot. In the days of the Native migrations, Indians camped on this little depression because there were many wild berries and bulbs, including camas. The ground is swamp like because the snow melt from Brown's Mt. flows underground to what is now Manito Pond. Ground water used to surface in my spot until the city grew upslope toward the mountain. There are many ponds that remain. Lots of wild birds, especially the migratory geese and ducks although the blue birds are long gone as well as many other species. We have the first frost of autumn and last frost of spring. 

Manito Pond, one block from my home

Japanese Garden, about six blocks from my home

Columbia River basalts underlay these features. Their natural springs used to dry up in the hot summers and the city now keeps them at a constant level with city water.  

Manito has several formal gardens designed by the men who designed NY city's Central Park. Olmsted Brothers. Here is one of their treasures. 

Their designs included both formal and wilderness gardens with many little pockets with benches and chairs among the beautiful scenes. 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 5, 2015 at 8:40am
It can be very difficult to find locally appropriate fruit trees. We may have lost many varieties with the nationalization of fruit tree nurseries. New development is especially strong in California. California varieties are often not suitable anywhere else.

Peaches are a good example. In my wet cool maritime clinmate, basically all California peach trees succomb to peach leaf curl disease. It took me many years to figure that out. As far as I can tell,there are only 4 peach varieties that resist that disease. I have all four, one still gets it fairly bad. I dont know how the others will do.

The other thing with peaches is they bloom early. A warmspell can stimulate them to bloom, then a late frost kill them. Apricots are even more sensitive to that - all of my spricot attempts have been killed by frost after they left dormancy. Ditto for an aprium.

There are catalog varieties that claim to overcome these challenges. I dont know how good most of them are. I research each variety before I try it. In some cases that works out.

If a neighbor had a productive, late blooming, disease resistant peach, I would beg for some seeds. As it is, I sm still trying. Peaches are said to bear in 3 or 4 years from seed.

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