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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 30, 2016 at 8:58pm

Joan, that grape juice sounds great!  I've never made grape juice, and we had a big surplus of grapes that went to the birds.  Is it difficult to juice them?

This weekend wss very good.  I did a fair amount of mowing, some more puttering with the deer cages in my orchard.  Planted a seedling peach tree in the chicken yard, and a pink flowered ornamental cherry that I grafted this spring.  Ning cleaned his chicken house, and all of the straw and droppings went into this year's zucchini, tomato, pumpkin garden, which might be next year's sweet corn garden.  I planted 50 daffodil bulbs, 10 allium moly, and 3 camassia bulbs.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 30, 2016 at 7:31am

Despite frequent crop failures, we know the old adage of "nothing ventured, nothing gained". I don't get overly discouraged. And living through winter isn't so bad, either. It gives me (and garden) a chance to rest and re-invigorate. Same is true with my golfing. A break in the action is a good thing. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 29, 2016 at 11:58pm

Don, I am sorry to learn of your apple tree going down. Those late autumn snow storms take down a lot of strong trees. I've lost several, i.e. Washington Hawthorn and an apple. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 29, 2016 at 11:55pm

Don, Daniel, and Randy, your crops and trees sound especially delightful now, as the weather makes its change from autumn into winter temperatures. I have Concord grape juice, about 20 quarts, in my freezer and given to family and friends. I went hunting for some parsley  a few days ago and found nothing good enough to eat. My dried parsley taste fresh in cups of chicken stock. 

The neighbors all have put their gardens to bed and shared from their abundance with me. 

I have a little herb garden in my dining room window that looks healthy and lush. I use them as fast as they grow. I'll get some new starts going so that I can have more. 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 29, 2016 at 11:06am

Randy, like you, I had things that did not do well.  Also I over-did things.  Even so, there were successes that I was very excited about.  The plums did poorly, as did the sweet cherties, but there were enough tart cherries for 2 pies, first time for me.  Again no paw paws yet, but my first crop ever for persimmons, which I didnt know would grow here, cool short summer that it is.  We had the best potato and onion crops, but tomatoes did poorly.  My okra experiment was kind of a bust, but I did get a few bowls of okra soup.  Half of the Chinese radishes split and rotted, but the Japanese daikon radishes and turnips were great.

So next year, maybe this year's disappointments will be the winners, and vice versa!

Yesterday I finished covering a 10 by 20 foot bed that was this year's Indian corn, with about 18 inches thick layer of maple leaves.  I already chopped the corn stalks to about one foot peices, and spread ground limestone.  That is for next year tomato and squadh, maybe, or potatoes and onions.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 29, 2016 at 10:30am
Getting the garden settled in for the winter: rototilled about half and spread pine needles over it. It needs to be acidified annually.
I'm still harvesting tomatoes and carrots. New kale and collard leaves are coming out after caterpillars devoured the plants.
I'd give my garden a C grade for the year. Many things didn't germinate--beets, parsnips, spinach--and others just didn't produce, like cauliflower. I'm a little disappointed with Brussels sprouts, too.

Oh well. Like the typical farmer, "wait'l next year".
Comment by Randall Smith on October 24, 2016 at 7:18am

Ouch, Don. I know the feeling. My cherry tree split a few years back. I've never planted another one because I hated pitting the fruit.

Comment by k.h. ky on October 23, 2016 at 12:09pm
Don, odd to see the snow when we are still getting temps in the low eighties. That doesn't mean we can't do a complete turn around and have a snow before the week is over.
Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 23, 2016 at 11:41am

If it was me I would just cut it up for firewood and leave the roots in place.  I'm not very neat.

Not trying to convince you of anything, but the Fedco link has the stories of many apple varieties.  I've added about 10 of their historic varieties as grafts to my trees.  This year I had my first taste of a few, like Sutton's beauty that they are not offering now, and Gravenstein.  Next year if they bear, I can taste Granite Beauty, Baldwin, Newtown Pippin, Porter, and others.  The Frostbite Apple is not offered as scion but is as tree - if I was going to add more trees, that is what I would choose.  As it is, I have more than I will know what to do with if they all bear.

Comment by Don on October 23, 2016 at 11:20am

Thanks, Daniel.  Good thoughts.  Not sure why I chose a Red Delicious in the first place.  I bought it on a whim, I guess, while visiting an orchard in South Hero on Lake Champlain.  The rooted portion of the tree will be an obstacle, unless I can get a backhoe up here. 

 

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