Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Idaho Spud on July 30, 2016 at 1:40pm

I think my problem is two-fold.  I've added more soaker-hoses to the garden, which delivers more water per hour, and forgot how long I've let the water run in the past.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 30, 2016 at 1:32pm

This month's water bill from the city was a shocker!  It was 2 or 3 time the normal cost.

That made me open the city's meter hole and check the usage.  I watered my garden and found that I had been using too much water.  I took the gallon usage, converted it to cubic feet, calculated how much I should use to water to the depth that my plants roots went to, and found that I should be using 1/2 to 1/3 as much as I have been using.

Comment by Daniel W on July 22, 2016 at 10:02am
Randy, I cut diwn about 2/3 of the blackberry thicket before the weather got too hot for me. I plan to resume cutting late summer /early fall. I did leave some blooming brambles in place for berry picking.

Rained today. Unusual around here in summer. Hoping for some good sweet corn soon.
Comment by Randall Smith on July 22, 2016 at 8:24am

Welcome, Dorothy, to our little group! I read your comment on Daniel's forum discussion. Regarding tomato worms, I check my plants every day. Those little devils can do some serious damage!

Comment by Randall Smith on July 22, 2016 at 8:17am

Daniel, it all looks so delicious. My white peaches don't ripen 'til September. Your blue and black berries? I though you got rid of your invasive blackberry patch.

Comment by Plinius on July 21, 2016 at 10:02am

Congrats, Daniel, it looks great!

Comment by Daniel W on July 21, 2016 at 9:22am

Some of the kitchen garden produce this week.  I keep whining about no tomatoes yet, but it's really been rewarding.  Collards, mulberries, white flesh peaches, blueberries, blackberries, figs.  You reap what you sow, sometimes  :-)

Comment by Daniel W on July 19, 2016 at 1:18pm

Randy, I always  enjoy hearing about hour experiments and experiences.

I think there will be the first ever persimmons on my trees this year.  Not American persimmons, although I just constructed a larger deer cage for my 3rd-year  American Persimmon in hopes that it wil keep bearing branches for next year.

Last weekend I harvested garlic - nice crop, and Yukon Gold potatoes, and a few big cooking onions.

Replacing the garlic, I planted seeds for turnips, kohlrabi, radishes, carrots, and others.  Now I need to put up some rabbit fencing and row cover to keep cabbage moths out.

Comment by Randall Smith on July 17, 2016 at 6:47am

Daniel, I enjoy reading about your "experiments", trials and tribulations. Plus, I learn a lot from your expertise. Thanks.

My SIL has a variety of sweet corn that got wormy and is worthless to sell. So today, I'm going to go pick several bushels and freeze a big batch. I'll just chop off the wormy ends. Hate to see all that corn go to the compost pile. It's amazing how much he has to throw away. And it hurts to see it done.

Comment by Daniel W on July 16, 2016 at 10:43am

Randy, I imagine you get great sweet corn in Indiana.  Perfect climate conditions and soil.  Corn loves hot humid summers.

I didn't grow corn for many years.  It was described as not likely to be successful here, because of our shorter cooler summers, especially cool spring and cool nights.

Last year I researced the varieties and chose two that have shorter season, and supposedly tolerate cooler soil.  The plant is shorter and the ears are smaller.  All I can say is one variety, "Trinity" was SO good, the best sweet corn I've had in many years.  The ears are not huge, but they are respectable.  The other was Early Sunglow, which was just too puny, not productive in my garden.

This year I planted sweet orn every 2 or 3 weeks late April to end of June.  I planted 4 varieties - Trinity, Bilicious, White Mirai, and Bodaceous.    The first of the trinity is 2 weeks after developing silks, so expecting sweet corn soon.  It takes some research because some seed packets are not labeled as to their genetics.

There are several corn genes for sweetness.  None are GMO for the home gardener, just conventional breeding.  

Sugary (su), Sugary Enhanced (se), “Supersweet” (sh2)

If you mix varieties, it can mess up the sweetness.  Most seem to be se, like the Trinity that I grew.  The sweetness genes are mutations in the process that converts sugar to starch, so there is more sugar, less starch, and they keep longer depending on the variety.  So you don't have to run from the corn patch to the pot of boiling water to get them perfect, any more. 

Most of mine this year are se types, but Mirai is a combo of all 3 genes.  Some gardeners complain it is too sweet, too tender, and doesn't taste like corn.  I hope to find out in about a month.  The catalog states Mirai can be eaten fresh off the plant without cooking.  I don't know about that.


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