Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: Jan 8

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Idaho Spud on January 3, 2015 at 11:22am

No, 4 books.  I'll check them out as they become available.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 3, 2015 at 11:19am

I found 3 of his books at my library.  The two I'm most interested in are out until the 26th of this month.

Comment by Daniel W on January 3, 2015 at 11:10am

His web site is LeeReich.com

I have Grow Fruit Naturally, The Pruning Book, and Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden.  That last one might explain some of my variety choices - paw paws, persimmons, Asian pears, mulberry.  I literally wore out The Pruning Book.  It is falling apart.

Good winter reading.

I just bought a used copy of Doc and Katy Abraham's "The Green Thumb."  Old old book. I used to listen to them on the radio, years ago.   It's interesting to read and compare to modern practices.  I think some of their recommendations are still good, some are not. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 3, 2015 at 10:43am

I always check public library first - and yep, they have Lee Reich books.  Put them on hold and will pick up next week.

The weedless garden

Landscaping with fruit - a homeowner's guide

The pruning book

Growing fruits - nature's desserts

Thanks, Daniel.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 3, 2015 at 10:23am

Lee Reich has just been added to my Bookmarks.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 3, 2015 at 9:38am

adding Lee Reich to my list of 'gardening authors to read' >>

Comment by Daniel W on January 3, 2015 at 9:29am
Garden writer Lee Reich describes the various varieties if mulberries. There are many. from insipid to rich and delicious. Based on his recommendations, I planted the chance-hybrid "Illinois Everbrearing". I bought that about 5 years ago. It's an attractive tree. Started bearing a few the second year. Now From July to Sept I stop by the tree regularly to pick and eat berries. They are so delicious. This variety is seedless. I've been keeping it pruned to keep it compact but might let it get bigger now. One person's weed is another's delight.

By the way, I recommend about anything Reich writes. He's very knowlegeable on trees, fruits, pruning.
Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 3, 2015 at 9:02am

Randall, Hackberry and Mulberry very prolific here too and many call them 'trash trees'.  I like to think of it as a living plant that will provide lots of shade for my very hot back yard.  It's said "CPS and the birds plant them".  When local power company disturbs the dirt, the birds eat the worms, etc. and plant the seeds. My mulberry is exactly in the center of my fence line as if planted by a human. 

Daniel, due to heavy pesticide use in the U.S. and Mexico, I only eat fruit that is certified organic. I would pay extra for the bagged fruit.  Reading the article about how the Italians grow and market their bagged peaches it made me want to whip out my VISA and order some. 

Comment by Randall Smith on January 3, 2015 at 7:43am

Around these parts (IN), mulberry and hackberry trees are considered a nuisance. They're so prolific. However , they make good firewood!  I have one gigantic hackberry, but keep the Mulberries cut down (They come up under my pine trees).

Barbara, I like your car choice. Sounds like the ticket.

Comment by Daniel W on January 2, 2015 at 9:43pm

I think bagging just never caught on in the US.  Other places, use of pesticides changed the cost/benefit.  That ratio will depend on who is doing what.  In the Hawaii article, they go through the labor costs, the benefit of more salable fruit, the increased price for the better quality fruit from bags, and conclude it would be profitable to bag some of theirs.  Here, in most orchards, that would be way too expensive under current practices.  The expense is the labor.  But at one or two minutes a bag...  I don't know.


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