Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 14, 2014 at 4:54pm

Spud, I'm not sure, but you may well be right. I thought it was also interesting that 12 million mothers leave the cave each night and return at sunrise - and each mother is able to find her own baby among the 12 million babies by smell and sound. I doubt I could find my offspring by sound and smell among 12 million others.  Mind boggling. Having fathers in the cave would just add to the chaos, LOL  www.batcon.org. I haven't read entire site, maybe answer is there.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 14, 2014 at 4:42pm

I've been meaning to say that most of my life I've known bats were our friends, and I've always found them fascinating.

I just read an article on bats that said the mothers find places that are warm to raise the hairless infants.  That made me think that the male bats probably live outside because there's not enough room for them inside.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 14, 2014 at 4:34pm

I didn't know that either, Spud. Bats are more complex than fables would have us believe. 

Barbara. I don't know the answer; however, here is one option that might work without harming your tree. I used this technique on a tree that had runners going everywhere and it worked.

I cut off the trunk low to the ground, but I think cut at any height would work. Drill a lot of holes in the cut part of the trunk, or pound in large nails to make holes. With an old plastic squirt ketchup bottle filled with vinegar, I carefully squirted the holes full of vinegar. Whenever I found a new shoot coming up, I used smaller nails to make  holes and put the vinegar in the shoots. I also have a garden injection needle that helps with the small shoots. I found mine years ago at a mom and pop hardware store. Sorry, I can't find one on the internet. 
Things You Will Need

  • old squirt bottle
  • vinegar
  • Bowl
  • Chlorine bleach
  • bowl of water

To clean the squirt bottle: "Combine a mixture that is 1/2 water and 1/2 chlorine bleach in a bowl. Wash the squirt bottle with water-bleach solution. Repeat the procedure. Rinse with water. The water-bleach mixture sterilizes the squirt bottle and prevents the spread of disease. Clean the bottle this way after each injection."

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 14, 2014 at 3:28pm

Barbara, that funny comment about the feminist bats made me smile.  It was news to me also that male bats don't live in the cave.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 14, 2014 at 2:16pm

Spud,  I agree about your strawberries. Those in store are tasteless so I don't bother to buy anymore. 

Daniel, I tried growing hollyhocks from seed. They came up but heat was simply too much for them I guess.

? I don't see any of King's radishes nor Daniel's palm tree. Wonder why?  

Randall, liberated feminist bats :) don't let males in cave I suppose.  

Hot and humid here in SA today. Mowing my tiny lawn was a struggle.

I have a question for you serious and experienced gardeners:

I had a ginormous cactus in my back yard - 6' w x 4' high and most likely over 25 yrs old. Scrawly, prickly, ugly and a pain to mow around, plus it was growing around a tree. I decided to liberate the tree, and after almost 3 months I removed the entire thing, using a borrowed reciprocating saw to cut the 24" diameter trunks. By the time I got to the last big trunk the blade was dull, so I decided to keep the trunk and use it to put a large tray for feeding the birds.  Dang thing has sprouted new pads. So, my neighbor is going to help me cut the trunk off to the ground.  Now comes my question:  How can I kill the root of the cactus without harming the tree?  The tree is recovering nicely and appears to have grown now that it gets more water. Can never have too much shade in Tx. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 14, 2014 at 1:28pm

My two small strawberry patches are giving me some tasty berries every day.  They are not in the best of health, but even the most pitiful berries taste 1000 times better than any of the big beautiful-looking ones they sell in stores.

Among the pitiful berries, there are some whose taste is beyond description.

Comment by Daniel W on June 14, 2014 at 10:52am
Have any of you great gardeners grown hollyhocks?

I bought some hollyhock seeds last night at lowes. I read they should be started in summer or fall, so now seems a good time. Hollyhocks would be a dramatic flower if I get them to grow and bloom.

Any suggestions? The web instructions recommend soaking the seeds, and starting either in place or outside. With the slugs and other animals here. I think I will try starting in containers.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 13, 2014 at 6:31pm

They look like delicious radishes to me. Let me know if I missed, king. They look like they would be nicely sharp flavor. 

Comment by Daniel W on June 13, 2014 at 6:05pm
Josn, I bet there are a lot of windmill palms in Seattle. They are surprisingly hardy. There seem to be more snd more in Vancouver. We had freezes that killed my eucalyptus after 3 years, and opuntia, and agapanthus, but the palm was unphased. Makes a nice, drought tolerant tree, minimal maintenance, tropicsl looking. Slow growing, sbout one foot a year with no fertilizer or watering.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 13, 2014 at 5:25pm

Daniel, what a lovely palm. I had no idea palms grow this far north. I don't remember seeing any when we lived in Seattle at UofW 55 years ago and Ft Lewis 50 years ago. I guess I had other things on my mind then.

I like seeing Ming, your garden with the roses, Charlie and chicken.   


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