Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2014 at 2:15am

Chris, I was thinking of you when I watched that video. I was able to pull out so many ideas from these various permaculture gardeners. There are several others that I want to share and if I send them too fast, people won't be able to watch them. You may have noticed that I sent playlists on a few of my recent posts. That way, you can watch more of people who have caught my attention.

I hope by summer, you will be relieved of responsibility for others. You need a good, long vacation, and I am sure your husband would be refreshed by one as well. You carried a heavy load.   

Comment by Plinius on November 8, 2014 at 1:31am

Thanks for the urban permaculture link, Joan! I do hope I can go back to my roof garden next season! As it is, I'm still busy doing chores that are overdue half a year.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on November 7, 2014 at 6:27pm
Bertold, Your hosta looks better than mine! Very nice! I'm pleased at the moment, bulbs are planted and tucked in. Other winter prep is winding down. It's a nice feeling.

I gotta look at that link tonite. I have minidwarf apples which are nice but kind of delicate and dont bear a lot. If I can do the same with pruning, it's worth checking.
Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 7, 2014 at 4:50pm

Thanks for the Geoff Lawton link

 I had never heard of him before and could not believe my eyes.  All of those food producing plants in 640 sq. ft. - and all this time I thought my 2400 sq. ft. was small.  Amazingly he has 30 fruit trees and here I am dithering about where I'm going to put the three that I want to buy. *face palm*  Imagine three apple trees all bearing fruit at different times, all standard trees but pruned to a height he can reach - and then he has other fruit trees - in a tiny urban back yard no less - and in four years time. 

I'm afraid I'm going to have to go to site and view at least once a day until January planting time arrives!!!!  

You are also are right about conforming to hopelessness. I've felt bummed with the election results and feeling that way won't change a thing - working towards sustainability will.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 7, 2014 at 4:49pm

Hate so say goodbye to the hosta, but it'll be sprouting again in the blink of an eye.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 7, 2014 at 4:07pm

Surviving Collapse: Designing your way to abundance.

Conforming to feelings of hopelessness and helplessness results in no change when change is needed. 

Refuse to submit to these feelings, instead think about the challenges facing us, explore options, develop a plan of action, and put a plan into motion. Then, evaluate outcomes. If we fail, put the next plan into place and evaluate again. Even if nothing changes, we can know we gave it a good honest whack! If we go down in defeat, too bad; what else is new? If we overcome the negative feelings and accomplish something, we can stand tall, proud and have a big party. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 7, 2014 at 3:22pm

Geoff Lawton Urban Permaculture

Overflowing with ideas of how to manage permaculture in the city. 

I'm getting some ideas of how to better manage water. That is a good way to save some money. I'm not interested in pumps or things that need maintenance, but for those who are clever, there are som ideas. 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 7, 2014 at 7:54am

Daniel, I can't remember exactly how long it takes, perhaps 5 years. I made persimmon pudding for our family gathering (among other things), and everybody raved.

Everyone, check out my comment and photos in the Food group.

Comment by Plinius on November 7, 2014 at 1:16am

Spud, we lived in a dark groundfloor apartment then, and the fishtank and the terrarium were our view of a sunny world. We sold the fish and the snakes when we found out that the floor was rotten - too dangerous for them - and moved when we got the chance.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on November 6, 2014 at 3:44pm
Randy, how long does it take to get a mature persimmon from seeD.

If I remember correctly, grafting a bearing scion onto a mature tree should result in bearing fruit in a couple of years. I should look for some here snd try a male plus female onto one of my young Asian persimmons. It might be the only way I get american persimmons here.

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