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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim yesterday. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 26, 2014 at 1:36pm

Daniel - I totally agree. I love orchids, but those dyed colors are grotesque. It's UNNATURAL. People who dye them will go to hell.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 26, 2014 at 1:07pm

Randall, long ago, when the president's initials were GWB, I was on here with my own name.  Unfortunately, it was searchable and I had been through a terrible harassment situation at work - with me as the harassee.  It is too late to change careers, so one of my precautions, of many, was to decrease my web presence because of homophobes and religious jerks.  I am nearing the end that career - not tomorrow, but within 2 years, and planning ahead.  I want to be myself, so this is the first step of a transition.  My name is unique, per google only 1 other person in the US with the same 1st+last name, and my work situation is always difficult, so for now I'm stopping with this change for now.

 

I discovered a zucchini today in the sad looking zucchini patch.  Cool!  An the perennial onions are at the scallion stage again.  Love that.

There were at the grocery store yesterday.  I was dumbstruck so took the pic.

 

The plants are real, but the colors are not.  I'm sure they are white orchids that have been treated with dyes to add those unusual colors. Each to their own, not for me.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 26, 2014 at 7:31am

So why the change here to your actual name, Daniel? Loved those squash photos (in Food).

Yesterday, I spread pine needles and leaves around my garden, then tilled. Rough going, what with weeds and rather wet soil. Half the garden is still in veggies which will survive another month or longer hopefully.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 25, 2014 at 10:59pm

Great sites, Daniel, full of information and resources. 

Your daffodils will be coming up before we know it. Meanwhile the dormancy is coming on full meter. 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 25, 2014 at 5:15pm

Today I planted a few more daffodils and a couple of alliums.   More little packages of hope to grow hidden underground during the winter, then burst forth with bloom in late winter.  Wish I could spend the whole day doing that.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 25, 2014 at 12:47pm

Joan, I didn't know those places existed!  In Mandarin Baigou means "White Dog".  It's hard to tell people his name.  Often, they will call him "Bagel" but it doens't matter - he doesn't answer to anything!  Except "cookie".  He does answer to that.

 

Permaculture resources.

rootsimple.com

permaculturenews.org

Comment by Randall Smith on October 24, 2014 at 7:39am

Cenek, good stuff. I always assumed Kansas soil had a thick A horizon and little clay. Here in Indiana (north central), we used to have a deep topsoil, but it's been decapitated by farm field erosion. We have a lot of rocks, too, from glacial deposits.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 23, 2014 at 10:31pm

On a hunch, I Googled Baigou and this is what I found? 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 23, 2014 at 9:30pm

compost fights climate change.

 

Cenak, Thanks for the pH meter update.  I should get one.  I have a very acid soil.  Last year I added lime, but I don't want to overdo it.

 

Your info below also hits an a point I like to make.  "Pick trees that thrive in your climate and soil by looking at what types grow without human intervention."   Depending on the species, you can save seeds from local trees that look healthy and flourishing.  Some seed grown trees can be really fast - I have a red maple that must be 15 feet tall, from a 1 foot seedling transplanted 2 years ago.  It needs to branch out now, and I know it will.  Nursery and big box store trees often sulk, and some have short life spans due to root mistreatment and girdling.

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on October 23, 2014 at 10:07am

Only this year I found out that soil pH meters are very inexpensive! I always had assumed that they would be hundreds of bucks but I got one for $35 that should be fairly accurate.

Joan you are spot on about how to manage clay based soil. I'm hardly an expert but I studied soil ecology at K-State while getting my merit badge in Boy Scouts ages ago. 

Here on the high plains of Kansas I have to work with a soil that barely falls inside the silty clay classification. Root crops have to work extremely hard to produce. Even many trees here cannot send roots down past the "B" soil layer about 8" down. Compost and sand are key for high garden yield. 

One factor to keep in mind is that if you change your soil type from native your plants may not do as well. For example in dry windy climates high clay content leads to very small soil pores helping it to retain water. A sandy soil in the same climate will require careful supervision to avoid it going dry. Contrawise if you are in a high rain area and add clay or compost you will make your sandy/volcanic soil have a lot less drainage so be ready for that.

Don't try to till or grow crops in the "B" layer or subsoil. If you need more topsoil it is better to build it up with compost than try to dilute, aerate, and culture the subsoil. The exception is that when planting trees pierce the subsoil and replace with topsoil. Use the subsoil to make a berm around the plant whose radius is appropriate to the length of the branches. The idea is so that the tree creates its own rain shadow and makes it easy to water the tree without making a ditch or drip system. Pick trees that thrive in your climate and soil by looking at what types grow without human intervention. 

I guess those are some random tidbits hope someone finds them  helpful.

 

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