Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Amy on December 13, 2014 at 9:53am
Daniel, I have a whole box of seeds from them in my freezer. ... I'm pretty sure I have more than 100 varieties lol its hard to choose bc you want everything
Comment by Amy on December 13, 2014 at 9:52am
Yes, rareseeds.com is amazing! I look forward to getting theither catalog every new year.
Comment by Daniel W on December 13, 2014 at 9:52am

p.s.  at the bottom of that catalog link, they have one that you can page through to browse - but the image is small for my eyes. 

Comment by Daniel W on December 13, 2014 at 9:51am

This is the most amazing catalog - beautiful photos, incredible varieties.  I grew some of their seeds last year.  I wish I could order a hundred varieties from them

Barbara, I'm so glad you are OK!  I drove a Yaris rental - really nice car.  My pickup is a 2000 Mazda B series compact truck.  It's been handy.  Nothing fancy.  Seconding Randall's recommendation to have a liner.  I've hauled tons of compost, bark mulch, pavers, trees, bricks, house remodel stuff...  but no idea what is out there or what is best.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 13, 2014 at 8:28am

Randall, I'm okay just feel like I've had my bell rung very loud. :) On my way to chiropractor after I pick up rental car. My little Yaris didn't win the round with the big pickup, but no blood or broken bones were involved. As the cop at the scene said "it did what it was suppose to do", meaning the car withstood the impact and I'm alive.

I looked at local Toyota dealership website and all they had was really big trucks. Thanks so much for info on Nissan. I'll look at them. I'll definitely have to get a used one. My insurance covers a replacement vehicle but, not sure how much "replacement". 

As much as I liked my little car, I would be very happy with a little truck. I really need a load of dirt and I've been trying to figure out how to get it without paying $100 delivery for $40 worth of dirt!  Trashing my car to get a truck wasn't part of the plan. lol 

BTW, talked to my friend after accident, she said "your guardian angel was watching over you!". I took a deep breath and said "well, I don't know about that" and moved on.  grrrrrr. 

Comment by Randall Smith on December 13, 2014 at 8:07am

Oh wow, Barbara! Sorry about the accident. Hope you're okay.

Only two companies make small pickups nowadays (Toyota and Nissan). There may be some good used ones out there, a lot cheaper. I think they're ideal for a single person. And I'm glad mine has a bed liner.  Good luck.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 13, 2014 at 7:53am

Sighhhhh. It's sad when you envy someone a truck full of horse poop, but, I do. :)  A pickup truck re-arranged my car yesterday and me a little bit. I'm not too bad off as I can still think and I'm thinking I'll get a small pickup to replace my little car and then I can haul all my garden stuff. :)

Comment by Randall Smith on December 13, 2014 at 7:41am

So I went to the county fairgrounds where people keep their harness racing horses, to shovel a load of manure into my Tacoma truck. As luck would have it, a front loader tractor was loading a semi with the steaming hot and heavy horse poop. Yes, I got him to "load me up"! Wonderful! All I had to do was drive it home (10 mi) and shovel it out--much easier than shoveling it in. I'll let it "bake" all winter before spreading it out on the garden, mixed with regular compost.  I'm a happy gardener.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 10, 2014 at 10:12pm

I checked on the Hollywood AFTER I said I would like it - and am happy to say it will be perfect. Good in my zone, 300-400 chill hours required - self-pollinating and 30' x 20'.  

I have a spot for  one!  Only you have to promise me that if it dies you won't ban me from your group. :(  

It will be considered bare root, right?  If you send after the 1st it will be perfect time for me to plant. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 10, 2014 at 9:55pm

That would be great! Wouldn't it be fun to see I could keep them alive? :)  


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