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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 20, 2017 at 1:57pm

I seem to be settling into a new normal as I look out my window to the growing boxes and see healthy, rebust weeds growing out of the carefully prepared beds with layers of composted manure. I have neither the energy nor the strength to even visit the boxes. What I do have left are the birdfeeders that attracted several families of birds; they flitter back and forth between the feeders and the forest leaving a trail of their droppings that turn the meadow green under their fleight pattern. 

I am becoming a better driver of my wheelchair and I am determined not to leave any marks on the furniture, walls, or cabinets. 

The fellows are all busy with building projects and clearing forest for fire safety I haven't asked for help to the greenhouse. The snow took down several sheds and roofs last winter and these projects take a team of rebuilders. 

I am getting stronger with less pain in my foot and ankle. I should be up and walking around very soon. I do my exercises every day and keep my foot elevated on pillows night & day. I tried, unsuccessfully, to walk to the bathroom this morning so I will keep at the exercises, ice packs, and elevated foot. 

Don, your gardens inspire me every year; I long for the days when I could put in a good day's work and turn out beautiful gardens. I give up that dream and enjoy seeing your work, Daniels, and any photos of gardens and progress. You have a lovely meadow, Don, with a pretty yellow blossom; what is growing there? The photo looking through the deciduous trees toward your house looks calm and relaxing, even though there is sign of hard work with the stack of cut wood. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 20, 2017 at 1:56pm

I like that radio idea.  Have no idea if it works, but it's worth a try.

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 20, 2017 at 1:37pm

Seems that nobody's garden is immune to pest & wildlife that eats up & destroy our hard work I thought I might share a few things that may or may not reduce our garden to destruction. And I am sure many here already know these tricks.....

1) Electric fence is obvious...

2) Motion Activated Sprinkler.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009F1R0GC?aaxitk=BrhqwGLD-B3Sgnz7T1.-gQ

These sprinklers do work...and this one in Amazon you can attach more hoses to connect  to other regular sprinkler for all around defense. My two complaints with these is that they are not built to last and the batteries wear out quicker than normally would. However, bears may find it a playful toy.

Bonus: Planting one of these motion sprinkler at your front door keeps the J.W.s away.

3) Use a cheap radio. I have not tried this. It was suggested that the radio is placed in the garden or on the side and turned on at night and tuned into a talk show channel . The volume need not to be loud. So when small critters comes out at night they wont approach talking people on the radio.

4) Dragon Kites

I bought these originally to protect my chickens from Red Tailed hawk. The following day the kite was attacked by several birds. I was also happy to learn that my garden fared better with it around. The one pictured is exactly the dragon kite I used. My experience with this kite is that it needs to be moved around every two or three days and put away every evening.

5) Deer feeder

Some people claim that providing a feeding center for deer will protect your garden and fruit trees.

Comment by Don on July 20, 2017 at 12:14pm

Wow, Daniel, that's a veritable plague of pests.  I garden in the countryside, too (we're half a mile from the nearest residence to the south and a mile or more in the other directions), and we don't have much trouble at all.  No fence, no need to net my sour cherries or raspberries, either.  

We do often see moose and deer and rabbits and woodchucks and bears, sometimes, and coons and skunks at night, but they seldom bother the garden.  Probably all that wildlife here has so many better options farther afield.  Late in the fall, after I've put the garden to bed (except for the B. sprouts), deer will venture out of the woods to nose up any carrots I may have missed and the eats the tops of the B. sprouts, though they leave the sprouts themselves for us.  

When a woodchuck does happen to blunder into the garden, which may happen once every few years, I know that, having discovered it, he'll keep coming back.  So I get out the .22.  That's the extent of the trouble we see here, though, I'm glad to say.  

I had to give up on sweet corn years ago, though.  The raccoons cannot resist it.

Comment by Daniel W on July 20, 2017 at 11:42am

This has been a difficult year for me, with wildlife.  But no bears.  Deer seem to get into anything that appeals to them, and maintaining the fencing is a challenge.  I thought they were not into the fig trees, except an occasional nibble.  But they completely destroyed a young fig tree that I made by grafting, t years ago.  They ate it off below the graft.  Birds ate almost all of the tart cherries, and a lot of the sweet cherries, and all of the mulberries, most of the small number of blackberries.  They have been pecking holes in the sided of plums, long before they ripen.  This fall, I want to create a new cage for the berries for next year, basically a net-house to keep out deer, rabbits, and birds.  Well, that's gardening in the countryside!

Some of the fruit trees are tall enough to be inconvenient for deer, which means I have been removing some deer caging.  That's helpful because it makes maintenance and mowing easier.

The animals don't touch potatoes, don't eat the sweet corn plants once they are about a foot tall.  Rabbits eat baby corn plants and baby onions and garlic, but not when they are bigger.  They ate off zinnias when small, but also avoid bigger ones.  None of the animals here touch cosmos, marigolds, four oclocks, .  gladiolias, or tigridia.

Comment by Randall Smith on July 20, 2017 at 11:21am

It's good to see bear prints. I've seen overturned trash cans in N. Florida, and several reports of bear sightings in S Indiana. They're getting around.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 19, 2017 at 10:34am

What a beautiful garden & forest Don!

Comment by Don on July 19, 2017 at 8:45am

Thanks, Kathy.  I do often wish that we had a longer growing season here (50 miles south of Quebec).  Earlier this month we visited friends in Boone, NC, up in the mountains, though, and their garden wasn't much farther along than ours.  Yet, this year I do think we have turned the corner at last.  Hot and Humid and sunny again today--and that's the near-term forecast.  

In 40 years, thanks to a moderating climate (to put it benignly), our season has lengthened by nearly a month--two weeks on either end.

Comment by kathy: ky on July 18, 2017 at 9:53pm
Don, call me Kathy if you like. And if you can remember. I keep meaning to change that on my profile page but get side tracked and forget to.
Comment by Don on July 18, 2017 at 12:51pm

Yes, k.h, I've been gardening here for almost 40 years now, since 1978, and I've always used raised beds that I rake up every season.  That way I can plant a cover crop of rye each fall and till that in in April.  The raised beds never get walked on and hold water very well.  They also give up their weeds pretty easily, and they allow for a much denser planting of beets, carrots, beans, lettuces, chard, and so on.

Thomas, I do get occasional visitors--raccoons and deer sometimes.  The 'coons don't bother, and the deer munch a cabbage leaf or a bean plant now and then, but I'm surrounded by miles of field and woodland, where there's plenty to eat.  Tnd they're happier farther from houses.  That said, those foot prints in the 2014 garden are a wandering black bear's.  

 

 

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