Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 27, 2014 at 10:59am

I just finished reading all of your posts over the past week - and such a wealth of information!

Cenek, your post was simply great. I really appreciated the common sense, plain talk, of soil. The one point that really hit home was if you are going to grow native plants then don't change the soil a great deal. The graph simplified things for me too. It is my goal to use all native plants.  I plan to add some hummus to my flower beds as trying to rototill them was like working with concrete, and definitely compost to my veggie growing area. 

Randall, I had given serious thought to sweet potatoes, but realized that I really don't want to give up that much space, and will stick to regular potatoes in towers. 

Joan, I only have one small area that is shady all day long and I considered putting a compost pile there. However, after reviewing the work involved with composting and after watching the video on Worm Factory 360 - that's what I'm going to do. The key thing to worm farming appears to be temperature - 40-80F degrees, and for 6-7 months out of the year our temp is above 80. I can grow worms in my office year round. :) Assuming it won't smell that is.

Daniel, I have finally taken down your wildflower field pic as my computer desktop - and I'm waiting for a Fall pic! :)

As usual your harvesting results continue to keep me inspired.  All I "harvested" this year was Mexican Sage blooms which I dried a large bunch and now have them on my dining room table in a large vase. Rather pretty and nice to know I grew them.  A whole lot nicer than Fake colored plants. :)  

While I was picking up rocks I noticed a native milkweed, Green Milkweed, Ascleouas viridis  growing hearby and picked a couple heads off a plant. After drying them for a couple of days I wound up with several seeds.  After stratification I intend to plant some directly into the ground and a few in pots inside and see which do better. Either way I hope to have native milkweed next year.

Randall, I believe it was you who questioned whether it was too early to start thinking about Spring planting ... never, never, never! 

I haven't quite finished my Hugelkultur bed as it still needs some leaves and lots of dirt and then plenty of time to 'meditate' and in the meantime I have several books to read and lists to make of the various native plants I'm going to plant come March!.  So, to my way of thinking gardening is year round - just different stages.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on October 27, 2014 at 10:42am

Morning, I'm back after a week of discovering I'm capable of a bit more physical effort that I thought.  I learned the least expensive place to rent a pickup was at my local Toyota dealership. Was able to get two loads and return truck same day. Pic is of 2nd load which isn't quite as many stones as first load due to fatigue. Gathered rocks, recovered, rototilled the grass out and mulched back into other parts of the lawn, rototilled some more, recovered, placed rocks creating veggie beds and additional flower beds and hugelkultur bed. Then I took picture this morning and it sure doesn't look like much work. I'm now ready to add some amendments to my very dark clay soil and come Spring begin planting. :) 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 27, 2014 at 8:07am
k.h. your gson is fortunate to have you!

Randall I saw those comments too. The ones that most sppealrd to me were, leave the tree there and be more creative about the building. Still, if they put up a carillon or monument, it might cost as much. Im glad they didnt vut it down, anyway.
Comment by Randall Smith on October 27, 2014 at 7:33am
Moving a tree that size is amazing. My first thought was "Great--they're saving that tree." Then, as I read further, I could see why some people would object. It's like the space program(s)--to some, is that money well spent?
I also enjoyed seeing the different varieties of squash. I harvested 3 kinds.
Daniel, you really didn't have to explain yourself, but I'm glad you did. I was just curious. Sometimes, I get a little brash--not always good.
Comment by k.h. ky on October 26, 2014 at 11:39pm
Daniel, you give me the greatest hope for my gson. I know he's young, and hasn't faced nearly the challenges older gays have, but if his path is easier because of brave people like you... You make me proud!
As an aside, I was pro equal rights way before l knew about my boy.
Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 26, 2014 at 9:25pm
So early to think about next year! And I amdoing ut too. I might put in a half dozen types of squash just for novelty.

Come to think of it, I grew at least that many types this year. For summer squash,I lomed the yellow one best. For winter, I like the butternut best.

I moved a couple if 7 foot tall trees, which of course is nothing remotely like that humongous one. Its like moving a house!
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 26, 2014 at 5:34pm

Daniel, that list of winter squash is interesting, and from all over the world. Going to give some a try

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 26, 2014 at 5:26pm

Very interesting article on moving a gigantic ancient tree.  It also had some good information that I may be able to use.  

I've heard many times that the roots only go out to the drip line.  This article and others that were pointed to, say that's false.  They go out 2 to 4 times the diameter of the drip line.  That's good to know.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 26, 2014 at 4:29pm

Moving a gigantic, ancient tree.  npr.


I hope it lives a long life after the move.  It's hard to believe such a huge and old tree would survive.  The root loss will be significant - roots extend far beyond the branches' drip line.  Still, it looks like they did the best they could.  I'm very impressed with the effort and investment - huge!


Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 26, 2014 at 2:35pm

I was trying to be nice about the orchids.  I think they are hideous.  But - every ugly child needs someone to love them  :-)


I was looking at photos of squash.  herehere.   I often see the lumpy, warty, goofy looking ones as "beautiful".  I think they are beautiful too.  My grandmother would have disagreed.  So beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!


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