Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Old and Green. Gardening with an older body.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 33 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo Jul 21. 0 Replies

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

Growing Tomatoes in Martian Soil

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7. 6 Replies

Bring On The Soldier Flies!

Started by Joan Denoo Jun 5. 0 Replies

Urban Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 3. 1 Reply

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Daniel W on July 15, 2016 at 8:47pm
The effects of cross breeding are seen in the plants grown from the seeds that follow. So, if you grow brussels sproiuts next to cabbages, the generation you are growing are not affected. However if those plants bloom at the same time, and you collect the seeds, then grow plants from the seeds, those plants might be hybrid between brussels sprouts and cabbages.

It's like if a white persom lives next door to a Chinese person, they wont start to look like each other. But if they get carried away over too much wine and flowers, their children might look like both parents, but not exactly like either.

The exception is corn. That is because the genetics shows up in the corn seed. So, if you grow white sweet corn next to yellow field corn, and the wind blows pollen from the field corn to the sweet corn, then some of the kernels on the white sweet corn plant will be yellow and starchy instead of white and sweet.

What can happen is if there is a disease of cabbages or insect pest of cabbages, that can affect the brussels sprouts and vice versa.

OK, enough of my being pedantic.
Comment by k.h. ky on July 15, 2016 at 8:38pm
Don, it's Kathy if you like. And that is a beautiful garden.
Comment by Don on July 15, 2016 at 7:58pm

k.h., that may be so--I have never worried about cross breeding, although for the past couple of years I have had a disappointing B. sprouts crop.  Few sprouts and too small.  Maybe that's the reason.  Here is the garden two years ago, with the sprouts close to the cabbages.  The gardeners I have consulted have not suggested as a possibly cause, but who knows?

Comment by k.h. ky on July 15, 2016 at 7:43pm
Daniel, have you tried DE a on top the soil beneath the cabbage plants? The crushed shells in the DE are supposed to kill the slugs.
Comment by k.h. ky on July 15, 2016 at 7:40pm
Don't, your garden reminds me of the ones my parents grew. Always weed free and thriving.
Question; I've always read that cabbage and Brussels sprouts shouldn't be planted close together because of cross breeding. Did I just remember it wrong?
Comment by Don on July 15, 2016 at 1:32pm

Thanks, Joan!  I love their innocent vigor and symmetry.  My green beans are looking really good right now, too.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 15, 2016 at 1:10pm

I agree Joan.  I've always thought that nature looks more beautiful than the finest painting, sculpture, or any man-made object.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 15, 2016 at 12:51pm

Don, your vegetables look more beautiful than the finest painting. 

Cabbage. Oil on canvas - 16 x 20 inches - 2013 by Jeffrey T. Larson

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 15, 2016 at 12:27pm

And I didn't show my 4 pots with lots of watermelon & muskmelon seeds in them that had zero plants show-up.

I think I fried them.  It appears that even heat-loving watermelon won't germinate when someone forgets to open the lid to his little greenhouse, and temperatures rise to 150° F.

Comment by Plinius on July 15, 2016 at 12:05pm

It is relative Randall - and I only showed you the good side of my 5 by 3 metres garden.

 

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