Godless in the garden

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Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on Wednesday

Randy, nice to see you are still getting some produce in your kitchen garden.  It's been raining so much here, typical northwest, that I have not been checking.  Today I did, surprised and pleased that there is still a lot of edible food in my garden.

Kathy, I think butterfly bushes are so prolfic, they survive no matter what.  In really cold climates, they do have to be cut back to grow like a perennial.  Here, they grow like giant bushes or even trees.  I have some that must be 25 feet tall, and they are only 4 years old.

Spud, you are right.  My old house in Vancouver is very, very gradually getting fixed up for sale, but no hurry.  My new old house in Battleground is where I have all of the gardens now, and gradually making it more enjoyable to live in.  I repaired and painted the walls, tore out the carpeting and put in bamboo flooring, and remodeled the kitchen there too.

Here's some of the produce from today.

Turnips and Chinese radishes.  A lot of the radishes soaked up the rains and exploded.  The Japanese Daikon radishes are huge, like giant white carrots, sort of,  and when shredded are a tasty cold treat.

Some of the Chinese radishes are red or green inside.  Here is a red one, sold in some seed racks as "watermelon radish" because they are red inside.

There is also lettuce for salads.

And a few more ears of sweet corn.  This variety is "Bodaceaous", which I planted in June.  Sometimes I eat it for breakfast instead of cereal.  To my mind, it's like eating corn flakes, before they get flaked.  Or like eating grits, before they are gritted.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 14, 2016 at 7:32am
Daniel and Spud, I enjoyed reading both your updates. I, too, didn't realize you owned two places, Daniel. It's sort of like me--a one acre house property where I live, and the farm which I own but don't work there much.
We did get a cold front that passed through bringing 0.3" of rain and temps in the upper 30's--close to a frost. It's now easier to dig sweet potatoes.
I made both salsa and tomato sauce yest. from my abundant supply of tomatoes and peppers and onion.
Comment by k.h. ky on October 13, 2016 at 1:13pm
The only thing left standing are the Mexican sunflowers and a few stray blooms on the butterfly bushes. I only learned that I'm supposed to cut them back to the ground in late fall. After they die back. That would explain why they always split and the older branches die off. Temp's are still getting in the low 80s most days. No frost yet. A and no rain. It's getting dangerously dry for fall. Being surrounded by over forty acres of woods makes it dangerous.
Comment by Idaho Spud on October 13, 2016 at 12:59pm

It sounds like you have houses in both places.  Is that correct.

I've always pictured you having a house in only one of the places.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 13, 2016 at 12:28pm
Spud, the move has been part of the long term plan since my cancer diagnosis 3 years sgo. It probably wont be for a couple more years, which is fine. Moving would add another 30 min each way to Ning's commute, some of it dangerous in winter. Both places were abandoned bank sales at the bottom of the real estate bust,and needed a lot of work, are paid for, so costs are not too bad. I have been gradually moving trees and shrubs to the Battleground place for 3 years, and now it's time to finish putting in low maintenance, inexpensive upkeep landscape that still looks nice tor eventual sale.
Comment by Idaho Spud on October 13, 2016 at 9:56am

I don't know if the bunny will survive the winter, and I don't think I want to take care of it, so I will try to give it to someone.  

A few days ago, I saw the mailman checking it out.  He was intrigued at how tame it was.  I ask him if he wanted it, but he didn't.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 13, 2016 at 9:53am

The black bunny is still here.  Up until a week ago, all I saw it eating were the composting pears, but the last week, I've seen him eating some weeds also.  There are some low, ground-cover type weeds with very small leaves that the bunny seems to like.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 13, 2016 at 9:50am

The first freeze here was yesterday morning.  The low was 28° F, 4 degrees below freezing.  

I had just harvested the last of the muskmelon and the ripe cherry tomatoes.  Some of the tomato plants are still alive, and no frosts are predicted for the coming week, so I may get some more.

Some of my raspberries are still producing, but most are almost through.

My old blackberries are still trying to produce, but not doing a good job of it.  I don't expect any more from them.

My new blackberry plant has not produced anything edible, but is adding quite a few new canes.  However, some of the leaves are yellow.  I'm going to add some sulfur to acidify the area to see if that's the problem.  It may need some iron also.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 13, 2016 at 9:38am

Daniel, I didn't know you were selling one of your places.  I'm interested in any details you can provide.  Did you talk about it on "Growing Greener...."?

I've not been reading GG for quite a while because in transferring everything from the old computer to the new, I didn't get that site transferred.  I corrected that today.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on October 13, 2016 at 9:18am
Spud I dont have much success with asparagus either. I think it takes a few years to really establish. I have a few plants in 3 locations. If I have a chance I want to consolidate them in one bed this fall and see what happens.

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