Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 10:38am

Last comment on the indoor light growing - this is my setup.  It's a mess now because all I am growing is some fig cuttings.  Seed starting is a month or two away.

I have the lights on timers, 12 hours on / 12 hours off.

The side fixtures are also fluorescent desk lamps.  I had them sitting around, so added for the taller plants.

The lights are held on with bungee straps.   I have also used string, which works almost as well.

The stand is a wine rack / serving stand.  I have also used a similar looking pie stand, same idea.  Estate sales and goodwill can be good sources sometimes for these, or similar.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 10:21am

Internet is working now.  Here is the link on the CFL light project.  I liked the result a lot.  I added aluminum foil to the ends, to serve as reflectors.

As I recall, the tube lights cost a little less.  But - those did not have a reflector, so I used aluminum foil and taped it around my plant stand.  Kind of messy and ugly, but it worked.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 9:49am
On grow lights - I cant link right now because my internet is down. If you go to my blog, go to the index on right and find "light gardening", click on that - that is how I do it.

I have 2 setups. One uses CFL lights - the daylight type. My other setup is just 2 fluorescent fixtures, I think for under cabinet kitchen lights, around 12 or 14 watt. Again daylight spectrum. Both work very well for me, seedlings snd young plants.

They do not have to be commercial Groew Lights. The daylight spectrum works great for me and cost me much less.
Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 9:05am

Create living willow structures.    We have been sticking pussy willow sticks in the ground for 2 years, mid to late winter.  Most have taken root, but deer eat a lot of the growth.  Just a hedge.  Those structures are really cool.  I will tell Ning - I bet he will do it.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 3, 2015 at 8:56am

Joan, my biggest problem is that I often want to do something as "cheap and easy as possible".  However, painful as it has been, that often is not the best way. Nothing beats doing it correctly - i.e. laying the pavers in sand turns out the EASY way!  I had to re-set all the pavers for the rain barrels - and in a few months get to re-do my walkway.  In spite of all my mistakes, the sense of accomplishment when I've completed it correctly is immeasurable. Lesson learned late in life, but at least learned. :)

Cenek, the only really successful thing I've been able to grow from grocery store is chives and celery - and an avocado. Probably did not provide them adequate food/light as they never seemed to grow into healthy plants.

Re Runner Ducks - just amazing. Can you imagine having that many ducks following you?

Rain again here today - everything is soggy and muddy. Good day to read a gardening book. :) 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 3:28pm

p.s. Your plan sounds like a good one and similar to what I do to start plants. I like your idea of a blog, "A collection of mistakes." It would be helpful to have "A collection of Remedies" as well. 

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on February 2, 2015 at 2:09pm

I've been trying to sprout pomegranate seeds from store-bought fruit. I think that perhaps they are hybrid and I'll have to buy saplings. Which is probably all for the better anyway.

Pomegranates should do very well in my dry and windy climate. Also the soil pH here is ideal.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 12:55pm

Barbara, my answer to grow-lights, YES !! you definitely need to increase the candlepower, even in Texas. I started seeds for my gardens in Alaska, Washington, DC, San Antonio, El Paso, Killeen Texas and Washington state. You can get seeds to sprout with a south facing window, however, after the seedlings get past the cotyledon phase, they will need the energy of the sun or more candlepower from lights to make a nice, lush, robust plant.   

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 11:31am

Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 30, 2015 at 8:52am

Randall, so true for me too about other states. I often wonder what it would be like to have the rainfall that Daniel and Joan get along with the cooler summers for you. I simply enjoy the posts because its sort of like going on a mini-trip via my online friends. :)

Joan, it has definitely been a learning experience. Yesterday as I was cleaning up after a day's work I thought I just might start a blog " A collection of mistakes" would be mine, and would include all the gardening things I have done wrong and had to do over this past year. It might help someone not to make the same ones - and provide a laugh for others. 

Love your description of the awakening of Spring, Joan. It is so true! I do feel the itch!  All this prep work and I've yet to do any really serious planting of more than one or two things at a time.  

This weekend I begin seeds!  Do you all have grow lights to start your seeds - any particular one that works good, but, is somewhat less expensive?  Do I really need a grow light?  My dining room is going to be my planting/growing area.  Since I never use my DR table I'm going to fill it with seed trays. It has a tile top so no problem with water.  Also, I have a Verilux "happy light' with provides 6,000 LUX of natural spectrum daylight - pretty bright - and I was wondering if I could use it along with the sunlight from a nearby large window.  Would that be enough light 8 hours a day to germinated the seeds?  Also, the man at Fannick's Nursery told me they soak all their seeds in a root starter (the one I bought for use when I planted my trees) and that it speeds up germination, especially for seeds that are slow to germinate. He said to use small amount of starter full strenth in small dish and let seeds sit over night. Then take leftover starter and add to gallon of water and use on other things you have planted - don't pour back into bottle. I'm looking forward to hearing all the various ways to do it successully.


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