Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Randall Smith on November 29, 2015 at 7:57am

Wow, Daniel. Here you are, ridding your property of blackberry thickets, and I'm trying to cultivate one in my pine trees! Around here, farmers spray fence rows (what few remain), and I have a difficult time finding patches. Admittedly, they are a thorny bramble, not exactly desirable for anything but the actual berries.

I spent nearly 4 hours "pulping" persimmons the other day. Got about 3 pints. It's very hard work which makes me wonder if it's worth the effort. However, my pecan/persimmon pie was delicious!

Comment by Plinius on November 29, 2015 at 12:39am

That's quite a struggle, Daniel, but you'll never be without blackberry conserve!

Comment by Randall Smith on November 25, 2015 at 7:22am

As a matter of fact, I'm making persimmon pudding today! However, nobody will eat it but me. I'm thinking about calling it something like "brown sugar delight", omitting the word "persimmon".

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on November 24, 2015 at 10:23pm

Frozen persimmons are a great dessert. My auntie used to make a wonderful persimmon pudding for Thanksgiving.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 23, 2015 at 7:04am

Daniel, I commented on your garden blogspot.

I hand picked a whole bunch of persimmons to be sold at the farmers market by my kids. They sold exactly NONE! Nate said people were totally ignorant about them. How sad. Now I have to grind them into pulp--that is, if he didn't throw them away.

Comment by Plinius on November 23, 2015 at 12:36am

I can hear you counting the days, Daniel! 

Comment by Randall Smith on November 18, 2015 at 7:20am

Yes, Daniel, experience is the best teacher. And experimenting is the only way to go. I always enjoy reading about what you're doing next. Very admirable. Relax now for several weeks.

As far as my garden soil (and I'm repeating myself), I've been told a barn once occupied the very spot the garden sits. To this day, I still pull up stones, rocks, concrete, nails, etc. When I first gardened, nearly 40 years ago, the soil was basically clay. I added a dumptruck full of sand and have enriched the soil with all sorts of organic matter. I finally have about 5-6" of good topsoil. However, it remains alkaline according to Purdue's soil testing (currently, checked by self soil testing). Besides pine needles, I also add sulfur.  The good news is, my garden is fairly productive. Only a few plants don't survive--blueberries, for example.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 17, 2015 at 7:23am
I now have 3 piles of leaves and pine needles in my garden near my compost pile. Come Spring, I'll alternate them with grass clippings and soil. That usually works to make good compost. My garden soil is very alkaline and needs acidic pine needles to lower the pH.
Comment by Joan Denoo on November 15, 2015 at 1:42am

Having a beautiful weekend. I replanted some more lettuce and kale to replace things that are not developing properly in the greenhouse ... too cold, not enough sunlight. The leafy things perform far beyond my expectations.

A very light rain fell today with individual drops that looked like crystals.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 13, 2015 at 7:02am

Always good to hear from you, Spud. How's your health doing nowadays?

With all this wind we've been having, my pears and persimmons are on the ground. That means I'll have to do something with them--sauce and pulp mostly.


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