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Comment by kathy: ky on October 17, 2017 at 12:12am
Interesting article Spud. I like to read gardening articles that are brought up here.

Randy, Daniel, thanks for the information on the voles. And they are what I have been puzzled about for many years. We have a very large population of moles and sometimes on their flat tunnels I would find a friend small holes. I learned a LOT about moles (from reading on how to eliminate them) until I decided moles do more good than harm.
I see a large number of different types of holes in the yard. A couple of weeks ago I saw a couple of sandy spots that I hadn't noticed. I knew they weren't ants so I kept watching them when I was working outdoors and found a wasp of some kind. Digging a little angled dirt mound and going inside. Probably to lay larvae because when it came out it covered the little opening.
Does anyone have any idea what that was?
Thanks all
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 16, 2017 at 11:16pm

Daniel, that is an interesting find. A little browsing and I found this: 

"Spanish conquerors exploring the Pacific Northwest in the 1600s came across many Native peoples using the bark of R. purshiana as a laxative. They gave it the name "Sacred Bark" (cáscara sagrada) in honor of its effectiveness. By 1877 the U.S. pharmaceutical company Parke-Davis was producing cascara preparations, and soon afterwards cascara products were being exported overseas to European markets. The explosion of the cascara industry caused great damage to native cascara populations during the 1900s, as a result of overharvesting.[16]

"In 1999, cascara made up more than 20% of the national laxative market in the U.S., with an estimated value of $400 million. The bark itself was worth approximately $100 million. Cascara was found in more drug preparations than any other natural product in North America, and is believed to be the most widely used cathartic in the world.[17]"

~ 16. Johnson, Rebecca & Foster, Steve (2008). National Geographic Desk Reference to Nature's Medicine. National Geographic Books. p. 77. ISBN 9781426202933.

~ 17. Small, Ernest; Caitling, Paul M.; National Research Council Canada (1999). Canadian Medicinal Crops. NRC Research Press. p. 130. ISBN 9780660175348."

It seems you have a valuable crop on your hands. Who would have thought you would make your fortune with a cathartic

Comment by Thomas Murray on October 16, 2017 at 3:48pm

Idaho,

Thanks for the article and it makes sense. However, is there a way to correct the problem now? If the buds are blooming now, then there won't be any buds left to bloom this coming Spring... or hopefully the tree will self correct itself , however, the bloom won't appear until two Springs latter.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 16, 2017 at 2:55pm
Comment by Thomas Murray on October 16, 2017 at 2:29pm

  Hi guys,

  A month ago I bought what appears to be a dying apple tree at Home Depot. So since it was at half price I bought it for $20.00? I can't remember exactly.  So I used an earth digger to dig out a hole and afterwards dumped a whole bag of fertilizer into the hole and plopped the apple tree on top of the fertilizer. I did not mix the fertilizer with the dirt. Then covered the rest of the hole with plain dirt and said a few magic words.      

  Two weeks later, some buds appeared and then some days later this,

  

   I am not sure what to make of this apple tree blooming in the mid-early Fall. But I am delighted the tree survived  In the background are the plum and pear trees.

  Wadda you guys think this strange behavior of my apple tree blooming in the Fall? The apple tree is Red Delicious.

 

Comment by Randall Smith on October 16, 2017 at 8:15am

Kathy, you might simply google voles. I usually find only holes, but in my sweet potatoes, I had mounds.

Caught my 3rd possum. I know mothers have large litters, so I may trap another 9 or so!

Comment by Patricia on October 15, 2017 at 7:56pm

We have banana trees here in BC. My brother in law has a business & they have spread out to many other businesses too. They do develop bananas but are not usable.

The trees have to be babied during the winter, & then my brother in law began making banana wrap ''coats''.

Comment by kathy: ky on October 15, 2017 at 7:41pm
Thanks Daniel. I'll take a look. Last time I tried I didn't have any luck finding any. Since our area of ky is sub tropical we can grow a lot of things we couldn't before. My neighbor has bananas on his trees but I don't think they ever make it to ripen. I'm not sure if they are even edible but they are attractive. But that's a devoted gardner. He takes his banana trees, some hibiscus and other plants into the basement
every fall.

I'm not into controversy but I wear my godless and ffrf shirts around here. I thought the one I mentioned might be over the top but it's way funny :)
They would be offended and never give it a thought that their perfect god could neither be put in a jar or die. That's what struck me as funny.
Comment by kathy: ky on October 15, 2017 at 10:37am
Randy, can you give me an idea of what a vole hole looks like? I find a lot of little holes in the yard. About the size of a quarter probably a little smaller. But they don't have any kind of mound around them. They're flush with the ground. I know I have voles because they eat the elephant ears I don't know what their hole looks like.
Comment by Randall Smith on October 15, 2017 at 7:42am

I'm in Daniel's corner when it comes to sticking with non-controversial topics. I've dropped out of several groups for that reason. Unfortunately, some of the groups I still belong to are inactive except when I post something. I was going to comment in the "Diet and Exercise" group today, but noticed I had submitted the last 4 or so posts and didn't want to appear to "dominate". So, I refrained. Same with "Learners coffee" group.

Now, on with gardening!

Joan, it sounds as though you had a vole do damage to your sweet potato. That's what they do. I've had about 10% eaten, mostly from some time ago judging from the scabbing over of the potatoes. I put mole bait poison in the vole holes, hoping they would eat it. And, I think they did, because I haven't found any recent activity. Or, perhaps my owl caught them!

 

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