Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 1:10pm

Daniel, what are duck shoes?

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 1:06pm

I wear gloves most of the time when doing anything physical with my hands, or anytime it's cold.

I've heard that once you freeze your hands, they are more sensitive to cold.  Don't know if that's true, but when young, I used to play in the snow until my hands were numb, come in and thaw them in warm water.   Holy Molly!  What pain that was!

Anyway, they are very sensitive to cold.

Other than that, I don't like pine tree needles jabbing my fingers, and slivers of wood are 10 times worse, because they are a constant irritation until found and removed.  I watch home construction shows on TV and never can understand those guys building with wood and not wearing gloves!  How can they stand it?

I'm the same way about my feet.  I'm always barefoot indoors and would love to go barefoot outside, but can't stand stepping on pebbles or pine needles, and getting slivers in my toes from compost not completely broken-down is the worst.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2014 at 12:57pm

Fire Ant Control

Texas A & M The Two-Step Method for Fire Ant Control

How to Get Rid of Fire Ants

I know you asked for red ant control, but I found only fire ant material. I wonder if the procedures will work for both? 

The information I found seem to agree on home remedies: 

"Shelve the grits, baking soda, club soda, vinegar, molasses, plaster of Paris, aspartame, cayenne pepper, cinnamon and coffee grounds! In scientific testing, none of these home remedies worked worth a lick against the red imported fire ant (Solenopsis invicta) — a nasty, non-native species that’s invaded the South, from Florida to Texas, and is expected to spread westward into California.

"If you have just one or two fire ant mounds in your garden or landscape and not a widespread problem, you can do a couple of things. The simplest is to pour 3 gallons of very hot water directly onto the ant mound. This method achieves only about 60 percent control, so you’ll likely have to repeat applications often. Be careful not to splash the surrounding plants or yourself."

"For an even more effective way to get rid of fire ants, drench the mounds with a citrus oil and soap solution, a combination that’s repeatedly proved effective. In controlled studies conducted by Texas A&M University entomologists, fire ant mounds still showed no activity nearly a month after the researchers had drenched the mounds with a mixture of 1 1⁄2 ounces of Medina Orange Oil, 3 ounces of Dawn liquid soap and 1 gallon of water. A compound in citrus oil, d-limonene, breaks down the ants’ exoskeletons and causes them to suffocate. The commercial product Orange Guard Fire Ant Killer — approved for use in organic agriculture by the Organic Materials Review Institute (OMRI) — also contains orange oil. (For other approved products, check the OMRI website.)"

I just read some reports of dislike of Medina Orange Oil. The conversation got very raunchy, but the caution in using it is what I urge. Why do people feel the need to get so hostile so quickly. It is just a case of not being satisfied and the name calling begins.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2014 at 12:38pm

Ants!  Hate 'em!  Can't get rid of them!  Tried everything short of a nuclear bomb!

Comment by k.h. ky on May 4, 2014 at 12:10pm

Anybody know a good, harmless, remedy for red ants??

Comment by k.h. ky on May 4, 2014 at 12:09pm

The sun is shining in western ky and we're supposed to have a high of 80 today.  Maybe it will kick in the grass seed that's been lying on the ground the last two weeks in the cold.


Comment by k.h. ky on May 4, 2014 at 12:03pm

Snarky is an apt description of Maher.  And elitists.

I always forget the gloves or have to remove them for some purpose.  As a result my nails are always broken,stained and jagged.

Comment by Daniel W on May 4, 2014 at 11:29am

King -

My hands too.  I wear work gloves a lot more these days.

Comment by Daniel W on May 4, 2014 at 11:20am

Spud, I think of Bill Maher as elitist and not always well informed.  It's nice we have an atheist comedian but he is too snarky for me.  Crocs are not too durable, but they are comfortable and well padded.   It's OK for an elitist to put down the masses, when he has access to all of the comforts life can provide.


King I used to go barefoot too.  Not any more, but I know what you are saying.


When it's wet I wear duck shoes.  When it's dry I wear hiking shoes.  We are still in the wet season.




Comment by king on May 4, 2014 at 11:19am
My hands take more abuse from tools then my feet do

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