Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Aug 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture Chickens Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 30. 1 Reply

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

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Comment by Randall Smith on June 5, 2014 at 7:17am

King, I have several white peach trees in my yard. They taste a far cry from the yellow ones. Plus, they ripen in September. Sadly, there won't be any peaches this year because of the abnormally cold winter. :(  

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 3:04am
Thank you joan I knew most of that info from high school I did soil judging and worked in a greenhouse but around here most people think a peach is a peach really there are a lot of stupid people around here and close minded I like free stones the best and the ever so hard to find white peach witch is sweeter and all together a better fruit for eating if you ask me
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 5, 2014 at 2:50am

King, to find out your USDA hardiness zone, go to 


Which says your Indiana Plant Map hardiness zone is 5a. 

Indian Ecoregion is 55b - Loamy High Lime Till Plains.

Indiana Average First Frost Map, Oct 21-31. 

Current Drought Conditions, Abnormally high.

Learn about the horticulture of peaches from your 

Midwest Home Fruit Production Guide  page 18

Now that you know this information, you can start looking for peach trees that will fit these conditions. One thing you have to look for is first frost date. If your peach tree is in bloom when a frost hits it, the cold could kill the blossom and you will have no fruit. The late frost doesn't matter. 

I live in eastern Washington state, in zone 5 and I gave up on peach trees. The early frosts killed the blossoms for too many years and I just chopped it down. 

Your local county extension agent can advise you, or a good nursery. Or, if you know of someone who successfully grows peaches, they will have advice. I like freestone peaches best and that may make a difference. 

If you want to Google for information, use keywords. i.e. peach, freestone, USDA Hardiness Zone 5a. I may be wrong on any or all my information, but at least this is how I go about picking a species of a plant in my garden. 

I look forward to what you find. Please keep us updated. Good luck!

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 12:43am

and does anybody know any good hardy white free stone peach types

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 12:40am

and i have family with lots of fruit trees 

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 12:31am

ok back to cuttings when do u take the cuttings cause i want to get some furit trees and im fine with full sized tree they will fit in with the oaks better that way

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 4, 2014 at 4:35pm

I should plant some.  I do remember they add spice to a sandwich.

Comment by king on June 4, 2014 at 4:33pm
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 4, 2014 at 4:31pm

Or radishes?  Just thought of those.  That's most likely what they are.  You can tell I haven't eaten radishes in many years.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 4, 2014 at 4:12pm

Are those crabapples or pomegranates?


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