Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 28, 2014 at 10:10pm

Randall, isn't it amazing! I ran across it while Googling for linden trees. The article was so interesting and I put parts of it on this site. Then I discovered the author of the site was Daniel ... our own Sentient Biped! He is a real treasure. 

I am so sorry to learn of your son-in-law's loss in his greenhouse. I feel sick for him!

Looking forward to your report on your Linden. 

Comment by Randall Smith on March 28, 2014 at 7:58am

Wow, Joan, that's some tree--propped up and all!  I can't wait to smell the blossoms and hear the bees swarm my one basswood.

Daniel: I hate you! I have nothing more than some cilantro and radishes growing indoors. Everything outdoors remains brown and ugly. I am so impressed with what's going on in your yard. Do you have a "master gardener degree"?

My son-in-law, the organic farmer, grafted tomato plants this winter. They were two feet tall in a greenhouse (long tunnel) when the heating system failed (early this week), and the temperature dropped below freezing. He lost them all. Devastating. He's sick. Farming and gardening is a fickle endeavor.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 27, 2014 at 11:05pm

Daniel, I ran across a site, and was so impressed. I brought the photos and narrative to this site and went back to check on details and discovered it is Growing Greener in the Pacific Northwest, from Saturday, September 08, 2012. Your site! I am impressed!

"Lindens are said to have edible leaves. ... In addition, the flowers are highly fragrant, and attract bees who make a tasty famous Linden honey. The wood was used for making fiber, the term being Bast, resulting in Lindens being referred to as Basswood trees. That is what my Dad called Lindens. I think Basswood refers to the large leafed, American Linden. 

"Some Lindens live to a great old age, hundreds, even a thousand years. This is the Old Kasberger Lime tree, believed to be 1,000 years old. In decline, but at a thousand years, who wouldn't be? From wikimedia commons.  During the Middle Ages, communities met under large Linden trees, and there were trials and hangings.   Not so good, but not the tree's fault.

"Lindens were widely used to line grand avenues in Europe, in the 17th and 18th centuries.  This was the old "Lindenallee" in Berlin. Still there, but newer trees, unter den Linden."

One other photo from that date impressed me very much:

"Linden wood is finely grained, and was used for fine carving such as this one by Grinling Gibbons in the late 1600s - early 1700s. "

Thank you, Daniel, for your fine research and writing. 

Comment by Daniel W on March 27, 2014 at 9:41pm
Spud's been busy!
I havent posted much because Im afraid it could be tiresome talking about my gardening obsession before weather permits everywhere. But here are some aspects-
-Ive been playing the bee and going around the plum trees with a paintbrush to pollenize them. And the peaches. It may not help - constant rain might wash off the pollen. Time will tell.
- There will be rhubarb to eat on saturday. Oh wow!
- We've been eating scallions and cilantro I planted in November. They took the freezes like champs.
- Thinned turnips and we used the greens for soup. Also some radishes. These are growing in a poly tunnel raised bed, sort of like having a mini greenhouse. Also growing in that, Asian mesclun and spinach, both a couple inches tall.
- A couple weeks ago I went around grafting sdditional varieties on pear and apple trees. I also grafted different varieties of lilac onto offsets from an old lilac bush to create new ones from varieties that are harder to propagate. So now I inspect those daily for bud growth.
- Under lights, peppers. Sowed four o'clock seeds just to see if I can grow them.

I hope everyone is getting excited and feeling some Spring in your step!
Comment by Idaho Spud on March 27, 2014 at 9:47am

This winter and spring, I've had better weather than most of you.  It's been relatively warm with little snow.  It is snowing now, but the temperature is still 3 degrees above freezing, and the forecast is for a high of 47 degrees F.  So, it won't stick.

I started working outside yesterday.  Dug out all the weeds, replanted a strawberry, and replanted a group of onions, both of which I found outside my fence.  

I keep the area between my fence and the alley pavement free of weeds and anything else that grows, because I don't want the city spraying poison there.  They go down the alleys about twice a year spraying weeds.

I like to grow things between the alley fence and my house, and don't like the poison they spray getting to my produce.  If I had left the strawberry and onions out there, they may have sprayed them.  I didn't want to give them an excuse for spraying.

I've been lazy about starting anything indoors, although I did lay-out pots and some seeds I want to start now.  Beets and peas.

I'm not going to plant any seeds directly in the garden, because whatever ate them in the past may still be around.  I'm going to let them get a few inches high first, which defeats the critters eating them.

Randall, congrats on the Rhubarb bulges.  The only things popping up in my garden are onions and garlic.  I haven't checked closely, but I think I've spotted some buds on the raspberries.

I've been expecting to see asparagus shoots, but I cut down the old dry twigs from last year and no sign of new shoots yet.  Looks like I've forgotten when they arrive.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 27, 2014 at 7:51am

I suppose nobody is adding comments here because we can't get started  (in the garden). I have so much cleaning up to do, but when it's so cold outside, I refuse to endure. My patience is wearing thin.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 21, 2014 at 7:34am

Joy of joys! Yesterday, I just happen to notice tiny red bulges poking out of the ground--RHUBARB! Spring is here! Plus, I see bluebirds investigating my bird houses. I'm in rapture!

Comment by Daniel W on March 20, 2014 at 7:36pm
Joan I was wanting Spring for you as much as for me. May you have an explosion of flowers and green green growth!
Spud in late 2012 I found a Greenspire Linden at Home Depo for half off. Then a couple months later another for 75% off. Then in Dec, 2 more for 90% off. As you might expect, the first was bigger and more vigorous than the 2nd, and that better than the last 2. Still for the price.... I wanted N American linden (basswood) and wound up getting one mail order. Greenspire is European, small leaves but closely related. They all survived and settled in 2103. Im hoping this year for some bloom and a surge og growth. On 2 acres there is plenty of room for them all.

Last year I had good reason to believe I would not survive the year. I grieved a little thinking
i would not see my trees grow and bloom. Maybe this year. They probably get over-nuturing but that's OK.

We had a big basswood on the street where I grew up. The street was Lind street. Someone forgot the 'en'.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 20, 2014 at 2:18pm

IT IS SPRING! Officially! We have bright sun, blue skies, and a promise of the rest of the week above 47 degrees! May the planting and gardening begin!!!

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 20, 2014 at 10:33am

If I accire enough land, I'll grow some Basswood.  I used to make boomerangs with it because it's soft, which makes it easy to carve, and probably won't kill you if you get hit in the head!

When reading about it on Wikipedia, I noticed this picture of Lime Nail Galls on basswood leaves.  I thought it was interesting because I used to collect galls.


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