Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Amy on December 28, 2014 at 8:09am
What pH do cruciferous veggies and lettuce need?
Comment by Randall Smith on December 28, 2014 at 7:36am

Amy, both kale and lettuce thrive in my garden. It's spinach I have trouble with. Your problems could be in the soil pH, although leafy veggies are pretty tolerant. Let's face it, some vegetables are just stubborn. I can't grow melons, either.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 27, 2014 at 10:06am

Lots of things I don't know Diddly Squat about either.  I think that was a phrase used a lot in California when I lived there.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 27, 2014 at 10:04am

Not me Amy, but I'll put lettuce on the list to try next year.  My mouth is watering thinking of BLTs.

Comment by Amy on December 27, 2014 at 9:53am
Have any of yall successfully grown kale or lettuce? I can get then to sprout, but they never get very large. Do you guys have any advice on that?
Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 27, 2014 at 9:29am

Thanks Joan.  Inspiring film.  I will begin to my plant trees in a few more days.

I met a gentleman at one of my local meetings and we talked about gardening. Thursday he brought me a well worn baggie full of seeds with no label. He said they were from 'his country'. I think somewhere in Asia. He wouldn't tell me what they were just that it was edible, said it was a surprise. I guess I'll be introducing a "non-native" to my garden. Will be fun to see IF they grow and if they do, what they are.  

I believe most of the gardeners on this site know a tad more than "diddly" ... plant on! 

Comment by Randall Smith on December 27, 2014 at 7:35am

Daniel speaks for me, too, when he says "I don't know diddly squat" (a midwestern phrase?). That's why I stay out of the permaculture, hugalkultur, Texas soil, etc., discussions. Is ignorance bliss?

1491 was a very good book, on par with A World Without Us (Weinstein).

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2014 at 10:17pm

I Googled Permaculture, Amazon Rain Forest, renewal. Here is one site, Permaculture: Pioneering Amazon Rainforest Regeneration. I found the video at 

Comment by Daniel W on December 26, 2014 at 10:00pm

Barbara, I find out every day how I don't know diddly squat.  We are all on a learning road, which starts way back when, and we don't know where it will go.

1491 by Charles Mann is a great read.  I've read it 2 or 3 times.  It kind of blows away the idea that the Americas were an unpopulated virgin continent, in a state of pristine wildness.  Certainly, we have fully transformed the continents into something else entirely, and much not for the better.I won't do a detailed argument about the linked article.  I have issues with a lot of the arguments, especially the truism that nonnative=bad.  Although, I think WE are the most destructive non-native on the continent.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 26, 2014 at 10:19am

In the garden, I think earthworms really are our friends.

I agree. It seems the more I learn about proper techniques of tending my little space, the more I realize how much I don't know.  The book you refer to, 1491, is definitely new reading material for me. 


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