Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Old and Green. Gardening with an older body.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo 18 hours ago. 33 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo on Friday. 0 Replies

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

Growing Tomatoes in Martian Soil

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7. 6 Replies

Bring On The Soldier Flies!

Started by Joan Denoo Jun 5. 0 Replies

Urban Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 3. 1 Reply

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Idaho Spud on May 14, 2014 at 8:58am

Planted the last of my peas and beets that I had growing in containers.  Yea!  

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 14, 2014 at 8:55am

Another positive about the Gorilla Cart is that it's narrow, and so will fit in small spaces.  Hard to maneuver in small spaces when backing up, but that will improve with practice.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 14, 2014 at 8:36am

Randall, it's the lifting that kills me or rather my back. With the cart with the pneumatic tires you can load it up and simply pull it across rough terrain. The Gorilla Cart I purchased is suppose to handle up to 600 lbs, although I wouldn't do that. I've hauled dirt, stones, cut up tree branches, you name it. The most helpful for me was that I could get someone to load the large bags of soil at the store, then I simply pulled them out of my car trunk directly into my cart.  Ditto with stones.  All the landscaping I've done this year I was able to do by myself with my cart - and working slowly a little bit each day. 

It came in a box and I had to get my neighbor to help me put it together. Also, I thought a bicycle pump would work to blow up the tires - Not!  So I wound up going back to HD and getting a automatic electric inflator. Good in the long run as I can use for my car.   

It's so true when everyone here says that gardening is so much more than simply planting things. It's the joy of knowing when you expend the effort the result is something beautiful growing - or even an edible product. For me the sense of accomplishment is just wonderful - "I did that!"  My therapy I guess. 

It is just gorgeous outside this morning.  We had the most rain we've had in a YEAR during the past 24 hours.  And the temp is a delicious 60F, probably as cool as it will get for many hot months to come.  Everything I've planted looks pleased!

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 14, 2014 at 8:22am

Randall, I've used my Gorilla Cart to haul about 3 loads so far, and to be honest, I'm a little disappointed.  

Surprisingly, even at the 30 psi max inflation, the 4 knobby pneumatic tires make for hard pulling over rough surfaces, it has a rather small volume, my foot got bumped once by the hauling handle, it took me 2 hours to assemble, and it's hard to maneuver into tight spaces. I may have noticed some of those things if Home Depot would have let me try the assembled one in the store.  Their excuse was that it was firmly attached to the top of the case.  One positive thing is that it's low to the ground, making it easier to load.

If I had it to do over, or had enough money, I would purchase the  large wide wheelbarrow with 2 large diameter bicycle tires.  In Home Depot, it was very maneuverable, although I don't know how it would work on soil.

If I didn't have arthritic hands, I would also think about the new plastic wheelbarrows with one pneumatic tire.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 14, 2014 at 7:50am

A wheelbarrow or cart is on my list! Thanks for the tips. I haul lots of firewood from my woodshed 150' to my house every winter's day. The old barrow is wearing out.

King, my garden is greening up, too. This rain helped immensely.

Spud, my father used to get stomach aches after eating morels. I went searching yesterday, but came up empty. Boo hoo.

Comment by king on May 13, 2014 at 11:06am

so happy to see things growing cabbage foring heads b sprouts moving up corn rows poking out onions pushing to the sky beans forming ture leaves oh the thill

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 13, 2014 at 8:45am

Barbara, glad to hear of your great results with the Gorilla Cart.  I look forward to using it.  And I just checked my receipt and found it was $70 not 60.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 13, 2014 at 8:41am

Randall, I did not know about the ridges of mushroom caps.  We Finally got a good rain last night (thunderstorm) and it's like everything turned bright green during the night!  I noticed a mushroom has sprouted in one of my pots. I'm going to check it for ridges :)  

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 13, 2014 at 8:32am

Spud, YES! I too bought a Gorilla Cart at Home Depot for $69.97. Of eveyrhing I have purchased to work in my garden I love my cart the best. I couldn't have acoomplished what I did by myself without it.  Last year I pulled a muscle in my back trying to lift and carry things ... this year I use my cart. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 13, 2014 at 7:24am

Yesterday I looked at prices and features of wheelbarrows and garden carts at 5 stores.  Some looked very nice, but with a $250 price tag I had to say no thanks.

I saw some nice-looking one-wheel wheelbarrows for a reasonable price but I remember using them many years ago and loosing balance with them, which caused them to dump the load to the side prematurely.  They also put much more force on my hands than the 2 wheelers.  I now have a bit of rheumatism in my hands so I don't think I would be happy with a 1 wheeler.

I wore my old one out by moving many tons of dirt last year.  It was a $30 wheelbarrow with two thin skinned plastic tires.  Those tires finally developed splits and depressions that made it very difficult to use.  One of them even wore-out it's bearings. It also had another feature I didn't like.  when it was heaped with dirt, it was easier to pull than push, especially when the wheels got wonky, but it would often hit the back of my feet when pulling.

Finally purchased a cart at Home Depot for $60 and put it together.  It has 4 pneumatic tires, a long rod to the handle to pull it with, and a latch on the container that allows it to swivel up to dump.  Haven't used it yet but looks like it should work well.  


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