Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Thomas Murray on October 16, 2017 at 2:29pm

  Hi guys,

  A month ago I bought what appears to be a dying apple tree at Home Depot. So since it was at half price I bought it for $20.00? I can't remember exactly.  So I used an earth digger to dig out a hole and afterwards dumped a whole bag of fertilizer into the hole and plopped the apple tree on top of the fertilizer. I did not mix the fertilizer with the dirt. Then covered the rest of the hole with plain dirt and said a few magic words.      

  Two weeks later, some buds appeared and then some days later this,


   I am not sure what to make of this apple tree blooming in the mid-early Fall. But I am delighted the tree survived  In the background are the plum and pear trees.

  Wadda you guys think this strange behavior of my apple tree blooming in the Fall? The apple tree is Red Delicious.


Comment by Daniel W on October 16, 2017 at 10:51am

It looks like the row of scrub trees, that I have been cleaning up, is Cascara.  I thought they were Hawthornes, but now I think not.  Cascara is interesting because the bark is used as a laxative, for hundreds (thousands?) of years, to this day.

My row of trees.   One more leaner to remove if I'm in the mood for that.

Comment by Daniel W on October 16, 2017 at 10:32am

Kathy, mine vole holes are typical for what these look like.  We have lots of moles too, but they make huge mole hills.  This year one of my fig trees died.  It was about 1 1/2 inch diameter trunk, 5 feet tall.  I had a hardware cloth screen around the base.  Moles had gotten under the screen, and chewed through the entire trunk.  It looked like a beaver chopped it down!  I didn't like that fig much, anyway.  I'm not certain, but I think voles are what eat all of my lily bulbs.  Lilies grow fine in containers, but in the ground they disappear.

Randy, after you finish with possoms, you can come here and catch some deer :-)  I saw the deer family a couple of properties over yesterday - there are five of them!  So beautiful, but so destructive.  How can five deer survive in this neighborhood?  I suppose, entirely by eating people's gardens?

I dug up the bed that had sweet corn this summer, turned over the soil.  Ordered some Russian or Polish garlic from Territorial Seeds, to plant.  I want to plant the garlic there in a few days.  Last winter I piled a lot of leaves on that bed and turned them over this Spring.  The soil is very soft now.  Yesterday I pruned lower branches from several orchard trees.  The goal is to be able to remove fencing around at least some, so I can mow easily under them using riding mower next year.  A lot less effort. 

At the moment, everything hurts.

Patricia, I've seen some bananas in yards here.  I think they leave them in the ground, too.  Cannas survive some years, but mostly not.  Gladiolas survive most years.  I dug up a bunch of gladiolas yesterday.  I will dry the bulbs and store them in the garage to plant in a different location next spring.

Joan, I enjoy hearing the frogs croaking and finding an occasional frog in some moist spot.  Also  get a kick out of garter snakes and praying mantises.  Saw a mantis yesterday.

Spud, I hope your pipes didn't freeze.  Your efforts remind me, I need to get some cement blocks to build a better cover over the well head.  If I remember.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 16, 2017 at 8:15am

Kathy, you might simply google voles. I usually find only holes, but in my sweet potatoes, I had mounds.

Caught my 3rd possum. I know mothers have large litters, so I may trap another 9 or so!

Comment by Patricia on October 15, 2017 at 7:56pm

We have banana trees here in BC. My brother in law has a business & they have spread out to many other businesses too. They do develop bananas but are not usable.

The trees have to be babied during the winter, & then my brother in law began making banana wrap ''coats''.

Comment by kathy: ky on October 15, 2017 at 7:41pm
Thanks Daniel. I'll take a look. Last time I tried I didn't have any luck finding any. Since our area of ky is sub tropical we can grow a lot of things we couldn't before. My neighbor has bananas on his trees but I don't think they ever make it to ripen. I'm not sure if they are even edible but they are attractive. But that's a devoted gardner. He takes his banana trees, some hibiscus and other plants into the basement
every fall.

I'm not into controversy but I wear my godless and ffrf shirts around here. I thought the one I mentioned might be over the top but it's way funny :)
They would be offended and never give it a thought that their perfect god could neither be put in a jar or die. That's what struck me as funny.
Comment by Daniel W on October 15, 2017 at 3:19pm
Kathy, elephant ears are such beautifil plants. I enjoy tropical plants. Caladiums too, but I cant grow them here either. Each place has its own joys and challenges.

I googled on vole hole but cant link right now. Lots of them here.
Comment by kathy: ky on October 15, 2017 at 10:37am
Randy, can you give me an idea of what a vole hole looks like? I find a lot of little holes in the yard. About the size of a quarter probably a little smaller. But they don't have any kind of mound around them. They're flush with the ground. I know I have voles because they eat the elephant ears I don't know what their hole looks like.
Comment by Daniel W on October 15, 2017 at 10:26am

I think Randy's right about voles.  They hollowed out a half dozen potatoes this year.  Fortunately there were potatoes to spare, and Im still eating them every day, 5 months after harvesting them.  On the other hand, last year I think slugs hollowed out a turnip.

Most of the apples are done.  My trees are small, not a lot of apples and quite a few were bad.  Yellow jackets get into a few, and hollow them out.  It's startling to pick an apple and suddenly a bunch or yellow jackets are crawling on my hand.

Joan, my step counter is worn like a watch.  It motivates me, and is rewarding to see how many steps I take, just doing gardening, chores, and projects.

Fire started now in wood stove.  Coffee brewing.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 15, 2017 at 7:42am

I'm in Daniel's corner when it comes to sticking with non-controversial topics. I've dropped out of several groups for that reason. Unfortunately, some of the groups I still belong to are inactive except when I post something. I was going to comment in the "Diet and Exercise" group today, but noticed I had submitted the last 4 or so posts and didn't want to appear to "dominate". So, I refrained. Same with "Learners coffee" group.

Now, on with gardening!

Joan, it sounds as though you had a vole do damage to your sweet potato. That's what they do. I've had about 10% eaten, mostly from some time ago judging from the scabbing over of the potatoes. I put mole bait poison in the vole holes, hoping they would eat it. And, I think they did, because I haven't found any recent activity. Or, perhaps my owl caught them!


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