Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Idaho Spud on March 29, 2014 at 12:15pm

Joan, it sounds good on my computer.

I liked the "American" carver and Gibbons expert explaining and showing why carving with lime-wood is so much better to make carvings with.

Around here, it's called basswood, which seems to be the same thing.  I've enjoyed carving it a little in the past.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 12:05pm

I found another treasure, David Esterly, woodcarver. 

David Esterling (Limewood) sculptor of Limewood. 

"Tilia is a genus of about 30 species of trees native throughout most of the temperate Northern Hemisphere. Commonly called lime trees in the British Isles, they are not closely related to the lime fruit. Other names include linden and basswood

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 11:25am

Out of curiousity roused by Daniel's comments on Linden trees, I went in search of  Grinling Gibbons  and found a real riches.

Grinling Gibbons... at Willowbrook Park 

Grinling Gibbons

There are some beautiful videos but the sound is wretched on my computer. I am sending one and hope the sound is good. Let me know how your computer handles it. 

1/4 The Glorious Grinling Gibbons - Carved with Love

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 29, 2014 at 11:03am

Daniel, what did you use for your spring kickstart for your trees? 

Thank you for responding to my question so quickly. 

Randall, I am impressed with your son-in-law perseverance is one of the keys to a happy life, in my opinion; start something ambitious and see that it gets completed. 

Comment by Daniel W on March 29, 2014 at 9:17am
This winter I gave the lindens - and other trees - a biy of an organic nitrogen boost. I hope that gives them a boost of growth. Last year was the first full year after planting them, so they are ready. Really want some flowers for me and the honeybees!

The sourwood buds are swelling so Iknow it survived the winter. And the persimmon and pawpaw buds. Spring is such a great time!

Randall keep encouraging your son in law. Spring will come!
Comment by Randall Smith on March 29, 2014 at 8:54am

Yes, Joan, Daniel is amazing. You are too! I look forward to reading your comments each day. I learn so much.

With the continued cold and snowy (2" today!) weather we're having, my SIL is stuck in the greenhouses starting all over again. He's one determined lad. Have you ever checked out their web site (Silverthorn-farm.org)? Or is it .com? Rossville IN.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 28, 2014 at 10:10pm

Randall, isn't it amazing! I ran across it while Googling for linden trees. The article was so interesting and I put parts of it on this site. Then I discovered the author of the site was Daniel ... our own Sentient Biped! He is a real treasure. 

I am so sorry to learn of your son-in-law's loss in his greenhouse. I feel sick for him!

Looking forward to your report on your Linden. 

Comment by Randall Smith on March 28, 2014 at 7:58am

Wow, Joan, that's some tree--propped up and all!  I can't wait to smell the blossoms and hear the bees swarm my one basswood.

Daniel: I hate you! I have nothing more than some cilantro and radishes growing indoors. Everything outdoors remains brown and ugly. I am so impressed with what's going on in your yard. Do you have a "master gardener degree"?

My son-in-law, the organic farmer, grafted tomato plants this winter. They were two feet tall in a greenhouse (long tunnel) when the heating system failed (early this week), and the temperature dropped below freezing. He lost them all. Devastating. He's sick. Farming and gardening is a fickle endeavor.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 27, 2014 at 11:05pm

Daniel, I ran across a site, and was so impressed. I brought the photos and narrative to this site and went back to check on details and discovered it is Growing Greener in the Pacific Northwest, from Saturday, September 08, 2012. Your site! I am impressed!

"Lindens are said to have edible leaves. ... In addition, the flowers are highly fragrant, and attract bees who make a tasty famous Linden honey. The wood was used for making fiber, the term being Bast, resulting in Lindens being referred to as Basswood trees. That is what my Dad called Lindens. I think Basswood refers to the large leafed, American Linden. 

"Some Lindens live to a great old age, hundreds, even a thousand years. This is the Old Kasberger Lime tree, believed to be 1,000 years old. In decline, but at a thousand years, who wouldn't be? From wikimedia commons.  During the Middle Ages, communities met under large Linden trees, and there were trials and hangings.   Not so good, but not the tree's fault.

"Lindens were widely used to line grand avenues in Europe, in the 17th and 18th centuries.  This was the old "Lindenallee" in Berlin. Still there, but newer trees, unter den Linden."

One other photo from that date impressed me very much:

"Linden wood is finely grained, and was used for fine carving such as this one by Grinling Gibbons in the late 1600s - early 1700s. "

Thank you, Daniel, for your fine research and writing. 

Comment by Daniel W on March 27, 2014 at 9:41pm
Spud's been busy!
I havent posted much because Im afraid it could be tiresome talking about my gardening obsession before weather permits everywhere. But here are some aspects-
-Ive been playing the bee and going around the plum trees with a paintbrush to pollenize them. And the peaches. It may not help - constant rain might wash off the pollen. Time will tell.
- There will be rhubarb to eat on saturday. Oh wow!
- We've been eating scallions and cilantro I planted in November. They took the freezes like champs.
- Thinned turnips and we used the greens for soup. Also some radishes. These are growing in a poly tunnel raised bed, sort of like having a mini greenhouse. Also growing in that, Asian mesclun and spinach, both a couple inches tall.
- A couple weeks ago I went around grafting sdditional varieties on pear and apple trees. I also grafted different varieties of lilac onto offsets from an old lilac bush to create new ones from varieties that are harder to propagate. So now I inspect those daily for bud growth.
- Under lights, peppers. Sowed four o'clock seeds just to see if I can grow them.

I hope everyone is getting excited and feeling some Spring in your step!

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