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Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 3, 2015 at 8:56am

Joan, my biggest problem is that I often want to do something as "cheap and easy as possible".  However, painful as it has been, that often is not the best way. Nothing beats doing it correctly - i.e. laying the pavers in sand turns out the EASY way!  I had to re-set all the pavers for the rain barrels - and in a few months get to re-do my walkway.  In spite of all my mistakes, the sense of accomplishment when I've completed it correctly is immeasurable. Lesson learned late in life, but at least learned. :)

Cenek, the only really successful thing I've been able to grow from grocery store is chives and celery - and an avocado. Probably did not provide them adequate food/light as they never seemed to grow into healthy plants.

Re Runner Ducks - just amazing. Can you imagine having that many ducks following you?

Rain again here today - everything is soggy and muddy. Good day to read a gardening book. :) 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 3:28pm

p.s. Your plan sounds like a good one and similar to what I do to start plants. I like your idea of a blog, "A collection of mistakes." It would be helpful to have "A collection of Remedies" as well. 

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on February 2, 2015 at 2:09pm

I've been trying to sprout pomegranate seeds from store-bought fruit. I think that perhaps they are hybrid and I'll have to buy saplings. Which is probably all for the better anyway.

Pomegranates should do very well in my dry and windy climate. Also the soil pH here is ideal.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 12:55pm

Barbara, my answer to grow-lights, YES !! you definitely need to increase the candlepower, even in Texas. I started seeds for my gardens in Alaska, Washington, DC, San Antonio, El Paso, Killeen Texas and Washington state. You can get seeds to sprout with a south facing window, however, after the seedlings get past the cotyledon phase, they will need the energy of the sun or more candlepower from lights to make a nice, lush, robust plant.   

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 2, 2015 at 11:31am

Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 30, 2015 at 8:52am

Randall, so true for me too about other states. I often wonder what it would be like to have the rainfall that Daniel and Joan get along with the cooler summers for you. I simply enjoy the posts because its sort of like going on a mini-trip via my online friends. :)

Joan, it has definitely been a learning experience. Yesterday as I was cleaning up after a day's work I thought I just might start a blog " A collection of mistakes" would be mine, and would include all the gardening things I have done wrong and had to do over this past year. It might help someone not to make the same ones - and provide a laugh for others. 

Love your description of the awakening of Spring, Joan. It is so true! I do feel the itch!  All this prep work and I've yet to do any really serious planting of more than one or two things at a time.  

This weekend I begin seeds!  Do you all have grow lights to start your seeds - any particular one that works good, but, is somewhat less expensive?  Do I really need a grow light?  My dining room is going to be my planting/growing area.  Since I never use my DR table I'm going to fill it with seed trays. It has a tile top so no problem with water.  Also, I have a Verilux "happy light' with provides 6,000 LUX of natural spectrum daylight - pretty bright - and I was wondering if I could use it along with the sunlight from a nearby large window.  Would that be enough light 8 hours a day to germinated the seeds?  Also, the man at Fannick's Nursery told me they soak all their seeds in a root starter (the one I bought for use when I planted my trees) and that it speeds up germination, especially for seeds that are slow to germinate. He said to use small amount of starter full strenth in small dish and let seeds sit over night. Then take leftover starter and add to gallon of water and use on other things you have planted - don't pour back into bottle. I'm looking forward to hearing all the various ways to do it successully.

Comment by Randall Smith on January 30, 2015 at 7:58am

It's fun to read about the "conditions" in other parts of the country. Texas and Washington are especially interesting because they're so far away from me (IN).

I've considered adding a new group about weather. Everybody seems to enjoy talking about it. By the way, I've had a robin hanging around my yard this past week. Must be lost because I see no signs of global warming here!

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 30, 2015 at 12:43am

Randy, your collard greens sound so good. We had no snow cover over anything, meaning there will be some losses. I hope the tulips and lilacs will bloom well this year. 

Barbara, your garden sounds so wonderful and you have so many new skills. All kinds of creativity come out of gardening. Setting stones and creating rain barrels being just two. Your local advisors love to help with solving problems. Nectarine and plums are refreshing. I hope you will send us photos. Roses blooming? Gracious me. I forget how different our weather patterns are. As I remember, February is the very worst month for unpredictability. Of course summers were hot and I didn't like that. but not knowing what to put on when going shopping was a real challenge. 

Kathy, another dose of ice and snow! Oh boy! 

Daniel, I hope you will share a photo of your pavers, too. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 30, 2015 at 12:32am

Such gardening news. Cold, hot, rain, snow, ice and wind. Yes, it is getting closer to spring. Feb 1 is Imbolc in the ancient Celtic calendar, the first day of spring. 

It means to me a new beginning. Plants begin to break dormancy and the growing season begins. There is a sense of activity, of making things, creating, imagining and making the imagined thing comes to life. I think of yellow in the spring ... tulips, forsythia, new growth. Wind fits with Imbolc, brisk and refreshing wind. Robins in the Mountain Ash tree eating berries, baby birds will be fledging soon, still too early to turn on the outside water. Spring rains and mud. It is a time of year when the dogs and cats bring in mud. 

In the country the birthing of lambs, baby rabbits will be showing up soon.  

This year we had no winter to speak of. Our snow pack is 1/3 short foretelling a dry autumn. If we have a wet spring there will be a lot of undergrowth in the forest, increasing the danger of forest fires.   

Spring kind of gives us a forecast of the coming year. ... but everything is changing, so we will just have to wait and see.   

I selected my seeds to start, including Sun Gold Tomato. The trays and seeding material sit at my basement workbench and there will be activity down there starting this week.  

I have to remember to get new grow light bulbs.

Oh! do you feel the itch?   

Comment by Barbara Livingston on January 29, 2015 at 10:59pm

Kathy, it will be here before you know it!  :)  We are having totally crazy warm weather here. My rose bloomed today and so did some salvia. This weekend to be cold w/rain - next week expect a freeze, and it will most likely create some compost for me. 

Your walkway with the mixed pavers sounds really pretty. Doing a walkway is a completely different beast, or at least I think so.  I did mine last year using some pavers that were here when I bought the house - and didn't have a clue what I was doing - this year I get to do it over again as most of them tilted or sank. More sand!  Good luck with yours. 

Daniel, I used plain ole gray 12" pavers, (except for at front and I used the red 12") easy to handle but not too pretty. I made a square of 4 pavers, w/ 1/2" between them, and then simply laid another layer on top of those. Then put sand between them. After I was done wondered if I should have gotten red for all, but I'm not changing!  I've never done it before so was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to achieve a nice level area - used short piece of 2x4 to make smooth and then checked with level. In my next life I'm coming back as a mason's helper! :) Guy at stone company said to just make sand 2" deep and that's what I did. The first time I was able to get all four pavers level on first try a happy dance and a "atta girl" was necessary. :)  Do you use a compactor when you lay your walkway?  


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