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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on April 8, 2015 at 5:17pm

Randall, did you put salt in the water prior to adding beans? I've always been told to not add salt until AFTER the beans are cooked otherwise they will remain hard. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 8, 2015 at 3:22pm

Randy, that's surprising that you can't get kidney beans to soften at an altitude of 850 feet.  I thought the problem was at high altitudes, like my 4500 feet.  Have you tried a pressure cooker?

I just put in a seed order at Seed Savers Exchange for celery, a lettuce mixture, yellow crook-neck, amish pie squash (pumpkin), charentais melon, amish melon, and small shining light watermelon.  

I've tried none of those before except the yellow crook. 

Comment by Randall Smith on April 7, 2015 at 7:44am

Barbara, I can't help you on the goji bush info. My plant is only just starting up--if not dead. But I didn't realize it grew that big!

Spud, I used to grow kidney beans, but haven't for several years. I could never get them to soften up, despite soaking and cooking for hours.

FYI, I'll be "off the air" for two weeks starting Thurs., Apr 9. I'm taking my computer into the "shop" to be cleaned up while I'm cruising down the Danube. Hope I don't miss anything too important here!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on April 6, 2015 at 8:45pm

Joan, just tooooo funny. Loved it. Works both ways and about many things or at least that is what I discovered. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 6, 2015 at 8:27pm

SMILE A HUSBAND DREAMS OF BACKYARD CHICKENSBY DAVID LANSING

"The best advice I ever got about my decision to raise chickens came from my daughter Paige. When I told her I was going to build a coop while her mom was out of town, she said, 'Build the coop. But don't get the chickens. Give her time.'"

Comment by kathy: ky on April 6, 2015 at 6:10pm
Barbara, I totally agree with that! As a cancer and stomach medicine it has proven to provide tremendous benefits. It's also beneficial for seizures in some instances. I don't enjoy the buzz anymore. I wish I lived in a state where the cbd's could be used without the high thc content.
Between the money the prison systems make and the pharmaceutical companies it will be years before it's acknowledged as a medicine throughout the United States.
On the gardening side it is a plant that I find amazing.
Comment by Barbara Livingston on April 6, 2015 at 3:58pm

Kathy, IMHO the 'herb' provides income for our prison system and as long as it does it won't be legal. A friend has breast cancer and is using it to endure chemo - small hit and she feels better. I'd be happy to grow some for her.  

Spud, I did not know that about kidney or butter beans. My gosh, learn something new everyday! 

Comment by kathy: ky on April 6, 2015 at 1:34pm
I used to grow some awesome herb. I know many of you don't agree with it but it's an awesome plant to watch growing. The last time the helicopter buzzed my place, three years ago, I had to give it up. I enjoyed the growing process. Ky is natural climate for it.
Comment by Idaho Spud on April 6, 2015 at 1:18pm

Kathy, what a flood!  The weather just won't cooperate with out gardening plans will it?

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 6, 2015 at 1:14pm

Thanks Barbara.  There seems to be more snow coming down than was forecast, and I hope it keeps coming.  My garden had received about 1/4 inch of water so far.

Chris, I was interested in the "wicked" plants also.  I looked at Wikipedia to find them, and was surprised.  I've forgotten or never heard about beans:

  • Kidney bean or common bean (Phaseolus vulgaris). The toxic compound phytohaemagglutinin, a lectin, is present in many varieties of common bean but is especially concentrated in red kidney beans. The lectin has a number of effects on cell metabolism; it induces mitosis, and affects the cell membrane in regard to transport and permeability to proteins. It agglutinates most mammalian red blood cell types. The primary symptoms of phytohaemagglutinin poisoning are nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. Onset is from 1 to 3 hours after consumption of improperly prepared beans, and symptoms typically resolve within a few hours.[10] Consumption of as few as four or five raw kidney beans may be sufficient to trigger symptoms. Phytohaemagglutinin can be deactivated by cooking beans at 100 °C (212 °F) for ten minutes. However, for dry beans the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) also recommends an initial soak of at least 5 hours in water; the soaking water should be discarded.[10] The ten minutes at 100 °C (212 °F) is required to degrade the toxin, and is much shorter than the hours required to fully cook the beans themselves. However, lower cooking temperatures may have the paradoxical effect of potentiating the toxic effect of haemagglutinin. Beans cooked at 80 °C (176 °F) are reported to be up five times as toxic as raw beans.[10] Outbreaks of poisoning have been associated with the use of slow cookers, the low cooking temperatures of which may be unable to degrade the toxin.
 

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