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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Hope in the Middle of Big Ag

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Aug 3. 1 Reply

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Comment by Randall Smith on July 10, 2017 at 3:53pm

Nice photos, Daniel.

Black walnut mulch wouldn't be good, but hazelnut should be fine.

My compost pile now consists mostly of grass. There's little "brown matter" to alternate with. I may have to get some woods soil to mix in. Did anybody read my comment in the "Wildlife" group regarding raccoons?

Comment by Daniel W on July 10, 2017 at 8:13am

BB, I have not heard of hazelnut shell mulch, but it sounds good to me. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 10, 2017 at 7:48am

Has anyone heard of using hazel nut shells for mulch? A local nursery is selling them and featuring them as a green alternative to slug bait that supposedly lasts 4-5 years.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 10, 2017 at 3:34am

Daniel, your photos, stunning as usual, reveal a nice variety of species, colors, and forms. It must be satisfying to sit and contemplate all the fine things you have planted. I can also imagine that Charlie enjoys the slow walks through the pathways. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 10, 2017 at 3:30am

Thanks, Thomas, for your response to my questions. Sorry you had so many injuries and live with pain. We can start our own Plantar fasciitis support group, learn from each other and be resources for others so afflicted. 

Comment by Plinius on July 10, 2017 at 2:18am

Thanks for the pctures, Daniel! Beautiful!

Comment by Daniel W on July 9, 2017 at 7:23pm

Sorry to hear about the pains and ailments.  I hope that there is some time to ponder or putter or just sit and look at the flowers and vegetables and trees and shrubs.

I don't buy geraniums (pelargoniums) any more.  I grow them in containers, and in the fall move them out of the rain to dry out, then store them  dry in frost-free garage for the winter.  Come spring, I move them outside again, clean them up, and start watering.  I did the same with the Lantana, which was slower but has started blooming again.  I dug up the lily from my old front yard and planted in a container, in late Spring.  It looks much better in it's new situation.

This weekend I cleaned up the front border.  The main flowers are daylilies, sedums, sempervivums, and some milkweeds, with some others mixed in.  Now the intent is something with minimal maintenance, preferably not much more than puttering.  Most of the plants are a couple of years old, some older.  I hope they will mature into making more flowers, but they are fine as is.

Some of the daylilies are pretty vivid.

Today I also cleaned up around some fruit trees, weeded, pruned, and removed deer fencing from a few of the tallest ones.  I hope the deer don't stand on their hind legs to eat branches.  So far they dont.

Comment by Thomas Murray on July 7, 2017 at 4:16pm

Joan,

I'll do my best to answer your questions. First a brief background. I was born barefooted...literally. The only times I wore shoes were in school and Sunday church. All other times I did barefooted, to the beach, riding my bike, and walking to the point that my soles developed thick callus skin. After high school my job required a lot of walking, lifting, and standing. My shoes wore out on average every two months. Fast forward to 1989.. my 5th Lombard vertebrae ruptured which ended my job. From that time onward, my right leg ceased to function normal. Fast forward again to 2007, one of the rung broke and I fell out of the ladder about 20 feet. This further damaged my spine causing a shift in my skeletal system and walking and other areas (we'll just focus on my feet for now). So my right leg and foot twists outward like a stray vine ( It is not noticeable unless I point it out in a conversation).  also causes excessive pronation.

 Every morning I dreaded getting out of bed. The pains are like putting my feet into fire while a reciprocating saw carving into my skin.

Eventually I was referred to a podiatrist .He said it was the combinations of bare-feet, wear and tear from my old job, misaligned right leg, spine injury, overweight, and improper shoes that causing these painful walking. Also added bonus of cold weather increases my misery.

Plantar fasciitis feet is the damage of the fascia between the toes and heel. I supposed normally it sort of act like a rubber band but over worn or dried out. Excessive pronation is the body weight  transferred  outside the ankle. In a normal walking gait, the body weight will rest on the ankle. Excessive pronation is when the rest happens outside the ankle, either right or left of the ankle.

For the pains, I take two different kinds of pain pills. I also drink coffee daily to speed up the effect of pain pills. Mobility is also important. I must do some walking daily. Some people join health club specifically to use the swimming pool. Swimming or 'watercise' is the best modality to practice mobility while weightless.

It is wonderful that you have your family that love and care for you. A good friend of mine says that this is all part of being a family. It completes the cycle of what a family is. It also teaches the process of what life is, that parts of our lives is always changing. That is what human development is.

That is how I look at it. Religious people whine and cry, "Why me, oh lord!" where as I look at it as, "I wonder whats next to learn about"

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 7, 2017 at 2:52pm

Spud, I hope you never have a torn ligament! It is just dreadful and I have a whole clan to help me get around, and all the equipment I need to make it easier for me ... and for family members. There are some things I can do for myself. 

My cherry tree had fruit flies, too, Spud, and I couldn't find an environmentally healthy remedy, so I had my tree cut down. I always cried when I had a tree come down, usually because it cast too much shade on the vegetable garden, or I didn't know how to successfully protect them from pests and diseases.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 7, 2017 at 2:29pm

Kathy, what did it take for you to heal your torn ligament in your ankle? That must have been awful! Can you describe your treatment and how long it took to heal? Did you have surgery? 

I don't mind surgery at all, it is just all the checks and re-checks that concern me. My little bedroom suits me just fine and the trouble getting me in the car is hard on Larry. I have been losing weight, so maybe it won't be so hard next time. Or maybe we can get Jared or Zac to do the lift.

 

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