Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Randall Smith on May 22, 2014 at 7:16am

I spent a good part of yesterday fencing the garden--no easy task for a 40'x60' size. Only half is "fenced".Now that my green beans are sprouting, I have to protect them, too.

King, you're a step ahead of me. I don't see carrots yet. Did you get hail from those storms? They missed me, thankfully.

Barbara, if my dog, a mastiff, sat on my flowers (which she does), that pretty much destroys them. I don't which is worse, the damage done by moles, or the holes dug by Molly to catch them!

Comment by king on May 21, 2014 at 4:21pm
Carrots finely I can see them
Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 21, 2014 at 8:03am

Randall, I have a 10 lb minature poodle who loves being with me when I garden. I first said, "no" to him getting into beds, then "no" don't pee on newly planted tree and perrenials. Discovered I was saying "no" far too much and making our gardening time not so much fun.  Yesterday I was watering and he came to help me and sat on very tiny little flower - I picked him up and told him he was a 'good boy'.  He loves to chase the only squirrel that comes to our yard, and I can only imagine the fun he would having chasing rabbits.  I empthasize with you and Sentient's problems with wildlife, and it sounds as if, whatever it is, has discerning tastebuds. :)

Comment by Randall Smith on May 21, 2014 at 7:35am

Radish leaves are prickly--maybe that's why. I don't know about birds eating beet leaves, but I do know they eat pea shoots! I've had to put a net over mine. My dog is confused, thanks to my directions: I yell at her to stay out of the garden, yet want her to keep the rabbits and birds away.

Comment by Daniel W on May 20, 2014 at 10:15am

Barbara, thank you for the link on epsom salts.  I had my soil tested last winter, and the level of magnesium was low to ok.  So I have used some epsom salts - small amount - to bring up the level.  A few trees had yellow-ish leaves, and I wondered if it was low nitrogen or low something else.  I added organic nitrogen supplement and epsom salt, and the leaves seem greenier now.

On rabbits and deer - it's terribly frustrating.  Deer have devastated some of my fruit trees.  I read they don't eat cherry leaves, and last year they didn't, so I didn't cage my little cherry trees.  This year they ate off all of the leaves and fruits, leaving just sticks.  I need to construct some new cages, not enough energy to do that, so I might just let a few go.

In one of the raised beds, I had a row of radishes next to a row of spinach.  I think it's rabbits there.  They ate every spinach plant, and none of the radishes.  So maybe they don't like radishes.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 20, 2014 at 9:56am

This year I started beets in pots and planted in garden when they were about 1.3 inch.  They are now 2 inches and look good.

Same with peas.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 20, 2014 at 8:36am

Randall, sorry about your beet seedlings.  

I still don't know what ate my direct-sow tiny seedling last year.  I know it wasn't rabbits.  None here in the city.

I was thinking it was bugs, but the it happened to the whole 10-foot row overnight, so now I'm thinking birds.  Some people say they eat young beet leaves.  Does anyone know if that's true or not?

Barbara, that is a funny vision of beet-loving bunnies.  Reminds me of the Wallace & Gromit movie "The Curse of the Were-Rabbit".

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 20, 2014 at 8:14am

Randall, I know it certainly isn't funny to you, but, I have this vision of hundreds of bunnies running around and all are saying "yum, beets, I just love beets"!  

I finally realized that I hadn't been watering all my seedlings enough. Now that I realize it they are shooting up out of the pots.  It's funny how one of us is dealing with too much rain, another is needing it desperately. I'm working towards attracting birds, bees, butterflies, squirrels, etc. to my yard,  and you wish wildlife would leave your garden alone.

Sorry about your beets though. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 20, 2014 at 8:04am

I planted more sweet corn yest. I still haven't learned that it doesn't pay to plant too early. My month old attempt failed miserably. Then, there's my beet transplants: damn rabbits chewed all, and I mean ALL the tops off! Must have been a herd of them! I doubt they'll grow back.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 19, 2014 at 8:52am

King, you didn't say which flycatcher. I have seen the scissor-tailed flycatchers, usually in a small park near my home.  I was walking with my dog early one morning and there were several sitting in one tree, going through what was obviously a mating ritual.  


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