Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Compact Bed Geometry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 29. 0 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 21. 3 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Jul 18. 1 Reply

To cure your garlic

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Jul 16. 1 Reply

Harvesting vegetables

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 9. 4 Replies

The Hen in Winter

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 4. 10 Replies

Fruit Pests: Apricot

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 28. 3 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on June 23, 2013 at 10:42am

Joan, thank you for the research!  The cat food can idea looks very promising.  Much easier than fencing.  The concrete reinforcement wire also looks easier than what I've been doing. 

I use 4 fence posts, 7 feet tall, place them in a square around the tree, and use 5 foot tall wire fencing to make a cage around the tree.  One side is held shut with clothespins, so I can get into it.  Once constructed, it is reasonably easy for me to get into, and not much maintenance.  Weeding is  bit of a hassle but not bad.  This would not work for the garden beds - too big.  The cat food an idea is more workable.  Plus, my cat will have more purpose in life, by providing the cans.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2013 at 1:27am

I know what you mean about not having energy. 
My friends who live in the country use this type of protection:

Protect Fruit Trees from Deer

Here is an idea that the gardener claims works for him, is cheap, and not labor intensive. 

How to Keep Deer Out of Your Garden. DIY...easy, fun and cheap!

Comment by Daniel W on June 22, 2013 at 11:39pm

Joan, yes, those fruit were from today.  Still a lot of raspberries and some strawberries in the yard.  Then is a lull, then we should get plums and figs. 

Deer ate leaves and branches from the young apricot trees and pear trees.  They should still do OK as long as that's all the deer eat.  Today I sprayed with some very stinky spray - "Liquid Fence".  We'll see!  Fencing works well, so far, but I don't have the energy to cage those trees.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 11:07pm
This just in from DripWorks. a nice article on garlic growing instructions.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 10:25pm
Sentient, are these photos of your harvest? My gosh, you are ahead of us. Have you had cold and wet weather as we have? Don't even want to go out.
I have been thinking of ways to keep critters out of your orchard in ways that do not cost money and too much effort. Sorry, nothing comes to mind that we haven't already discussed. I just love your gardening with an older body site. Just so chuck full of information. I have only tapped into the resources. Makes for great wet, cold summer days.
Comment by Daniel W on June 22, 2013 at 6:23pm

Joan, thanks for the info!  Doing some planting today, so will keep that advice in mind.  Deer browsed through this week, eating apricot leaves and pear leaves.  They tasted the top of a Jerusalem artichoke, and apparently didn't like it.

This is today.  The best crop I've had from this tart cherry tree.

And some other fruits, sweet cherries, strawberries, raspberries, and those tart cherries.  Someone's going to have a cherry pie tomorrow.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 2:57pm

Dallas, so THAT is what is popping up all over the garden. It is raining today, and cold, but that will be my next chore ... wear long sleeves and gloves, eradicate the demons with gusto. If they go to seed, everyone will be in trouble because of their speedily spreading habit. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 2:55pm

Randall, thanks for the information. I have no problem with rabbits or dear, but my daughter and cousin do. I pall along your information. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 22, 2013 at 2:48pm
Sentient, I just read your suggested site, "Farmers Almanac" and found this suggested from a reader.
" Interplant the prickly vine veggies (vine squash, pumpkin, vine zucchini etc.) throughout your garden. The rabbits dislike the prickers on the vines and in general will not pass through them to get to your beloved veggies in the center. This interplanting is very successful in the northeast where the research and experimentation was implemented and the entire garden interior was left alone while the veggies along the edges of the garden were nibbled."
~ Teddy, Farmers Almanac
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 22, 2013 at 5:21am

What a scary plant!  Glad to read I shouldn't encounter it here.


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