Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W Aug 1. 1 Reply

Permaculture Chickens Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 30. 1 Reply

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

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Comment by Randall Smith on May 16, 2016 at 6:59am

Sshew! I returned from "vacation" to a jungle. Two inches of rain in two weeks resulted in tall grass and garden weeds. And it's too wet to hoe or till.

But the good news is, it didn't frost as predicted, and the vegetable starts look pretty good (except corn).

Since my dog wasn't around, rabbits had a field day (week), but there's plenty for all. Unlike you, Daniel, I learned a lesson last year about how rabbits love of blackberry bushes. I have mine fenced, and they're blooming like crazy. Same with other berries.

Rhubarb pie is on the docket for preparation today!

Comment by Daniel W on May 15, 2016 at 6:07pm
Raining for 2 days. Water tank full now. Grass too tall. Rabbits ate the lush growth from my thornless blackberries. So that's why there are thorns. Now protected, but dammit! Those are expensive rabbit food, and I devoted a lot of nurturing to them!

Some of the corn plants are also disappearing. Might be rabbits there too. But, for some reason they've stuck with the Indian corn, and left the sweet corn alone.

A row of okra seeds has germinated. Now to see what happens next. Pure experiment, no experience to guide me.

All but 2 pawpaws fell from the tree. Persimmons are yet to bloom. Tomatoes starting to bloom.
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2016 at 10:24am

Daniel, I've not tried roasting okra.  I'll try that next time.

Too bad you had to quit posting about bees.  It's amazing and sad how many people believe conspiracy theories.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2016 at 10:20am

Hope your tooth is better Plinius.

It sounds like you get quite a bit out of your small garden.  I don't think I've eaten a tayberry, but it sounds delicious.

Comment by Plinius on May 12, 2016 at 6:56am

Sorry I didn't answer, Spud! I've on antibiotics for a tooth problem, and the medicine made me completely brainless...

My garden looks rather good - not that I could spend a lot of time on it - but the perennial plants grow like mad. Some are thinking of invading the neighbours. I'm looking forward to the tayberry harvest, and in the meantime I sowed and planted beets, chards, lettuce, tomatoes and flowers for the salad. I already harvested rosemary and mint and I think I found some leeks. The cats harvest only grass...

Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2016 at 2:25pm
BB, I was discouraged to lose my last beehive during the winter, so started over again in April. The new ones seem to be happy for now, and everywhere I go there are honeybees foraging for nectar and pollen.

Last year I was on a fruit growing website - mostly hobby people like me, and a couple of nurserymen. I posted about how to support bee populations by growing trees that supply pollen and nectar when fruit trees do not, how to grow a wildflower meadow for the same reason, and other things that support bee foraging.

I was met with some positive comments, but the negatives overwhelmed me. They said the bee decline is a myth, it is govt propaganda, it is anti-chemical company fear mongering, they see bees in their neighborhood so it cant be true, etc. So I gave up. I had also posted about some other topics, had the same response, so left the site entirely.

Not I don't have an online site about growing fruit - the old gardenweb was bought out by Houzz and it's basically a commercial site to support ads and corporations, and the home orchard society site is not very busy. But, by not going there anymore, I don't have to see derision of people who actually care about these things and have methods to ameleoriate the issues, however small.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 10, 2016 at 1:25pm

Heard on NPR today that 28% of American honeybees died off this past winter. 17% or less is what's considered by scientists to be sustainable.

Comment by Daniel W on May 6, 2016 at 3:05pm
Spud, O usually use frozen okra and include it in a vegetarian stew, along with tomoatoes, peppers, barley and some other stuff. If I had it fresh, I would roast or grill it.I love the nutty flavor and crunch. It probably wont grow here but I'm trying again. My biggest plant copntinues wilting. My guess is it's the lack of humidity.

NO sense in falling out of your tree. I'm trying hard not to do that myself.

I keep counting the flower buds on my persimmon trees. It will still take luck, but I hope there is at least one to taste this year.

Spud, Im trying that Blacktail Mountain melon along with some others. Like the okra, this is not the right climate for melons, but maybe climate change will do me a favor this year.
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 6, 2016 at 7:47am

Thanks Plinius.  It looks like I should get plenty of fruit for the size of the tree.  It's still small, but loaded with fruit.  Even after thinning, I should get a nice bunch of apricots.

How are you doing?

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 6, 2016 at 7:43am

Daniel, how do you cook okra?  I've only tried it once or twice, and wasn't impressed, but I just may not know how to cook it.


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