Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 5, 2014 at 8:46am

King, I am very glad to learn of your experiences and training when you were so young. Having that background gives you a real advantage. Knowing about soils, the pH factor, sun exposure, and different watering needs gives you a head start now.

I had the pruner over Tuesday and he commented on how healthy my soil is. I have spent 40 years growing excellent soil, the plants are able to do their work and I get the benefits of beauty and the crops.  I have a worm farm and use the liquids that drain off of it to pour nutrition by the quart onto plants. I put well composted steer manure on my beds every year. I have soaker hoses and use no overhead watering. Lady bugs take care of the aphids. The wild birds take care of caterpillars. All the beds have a heavy layer of mulch to hold in the moisture and reduce weeds. My walkways are of two inch chunks of wood bark which does create problems with fungus, relatively easily controlled by not putting soaker hoses near the walkways and stirring up the wood chunks with a rake.

Fungi in Mulches and Composts. Especially difficult is Shotgun or artillery fungus (Sphaerobolus),which killed my weeping cherry tree. I now use the dead stump as a place to put ears of corn for the birds and squirrels. 

Well, King, I hope you find a really delicious white free-stone peach that will flourish in your garden. 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 5, 2014 at 7:17am

King, I have several white peach trees in my yard. They taste a far cry from the yellow ones. Plus, they ripen in September. Sadly, there won't be any peaches this year because of the abnormally cold winter. :(  

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 3:04am
Thank you joan I knew most of that info from high school I did soil judging and worked in a greenhouse but around here most people think a peach is a peach really there are a lot of stupid people around here and close minded I like free stones the best and the ever so hard to find white peach witch is sweeter and all together a better fruit for eating if you ask me
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 5, 2014 at 2:50am

King, to find out your USDA hardiness zone, go to 


Which says your Indiana Plant Map hardiness zone is 5a. 

Indian Ecoregion is 55b - Loamy High Lime Till Plains.

Indiana Average First Frost Map, Oct 21-31. 

Current Drought Conditions, Abnormally high.

Learn about the horticulture of peaches from your 

Midwest Home Fruit Production Guide  page 18

Now that you know this information, you can start looking for peach trees that will fit these conditions. One thing you have to look for is first frost date. If your peach tree is in bloom when a frost hits it, the cold could kill the blossom and you will have no fruit. The late frost doesn't matter. 

I live in eastern Washington state, in zone 5 and I gave up on peach trees. The early frosts killed the blossoms for too many years and I just chopped it down. 

Your local county extension agent can advise you, or a good nursery. Or, if you know of someone who successfully grows peaches, they will have advice. I like freestone peaches best and that may make a difference. 

If you want to Google for information, use keywords. i.e. peach, freestone, USDA Hardiness Zone 5a. I may be wrong on any or all my information, but at least this is how I go about picking a species of a plant in my garden. 

I look forward to what you find. Please keep us updated. Good luck!

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 12:43am

and does anybody know any good hardy white free stone peach types

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 12:40am

and i have family with lots of fruit trees 

Comment by king on June 5, 2014 at 12:31am

ok back to cuttings when do u take the cuttings cause i want to get some furit trees and im fine with full sized tree they will fit in with the oaks better that way

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 4, 2014 at 4:35pm

I should plant some.  I do remember they add spice to a sandwich.

Comment by king on June 4, 2014 at 4:33pm
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 4, 2014 at 4:31pm

Or radishes?  Just thought of those.  That's most likely what they are.  You can tell I haven't eaten radishes in many years.


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