Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

Discussion Forum

How to Store Nuts

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Thursday. 3 Replies

Himalayan rhododendrons blooming 3 months early

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jan 22. 4 Replies

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Comment by king on May 8, 2014 at 10:42am
So Randall carrots
Comment by Daniel W on May 8, 2014 at 10:28am

Most of my seedlings are via starting indoors, in containers.  Some I pre-sprout on moist paper towel in a ziplock bag.  Many, I start on a heating mat.  Currently I have seedlings not yet germinated for squashes, zucchinis, cucumbers, bush beans.

Direct seeding works for me with brassicas, radishes, carrots, marigolds, turnips, mesclun.  They don't mind the cool soil.  Critters don't eat them too much.  I was surprised yesterday to see that a row of radishes was untouched, while the row of spinach a foot away was completely eaten.  Probably by rabbits or deer.

I had trouble getting snowpeas to germinate until I covered them with chicken wire.  I discovered then almost all of the seeds became plants.  My thought there, is birds were eating the seeds or small plants.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 8, 2014 at 10:20am

It always amazes me how some seeds germinate and others don't. Ex: radishes yes, parsnips no. I'd say, Barbara, toss a few more seeds in the bare spots, tamp down, and water lightly.

King: to answer your question as to what I grow--just about everything, but usually only one of a kind, except tomatoes.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2014 at 10:31pm

I don't have great luck with sowing seeds. Usually, not always, I start seeds either in my home in small pots where I can regulate the water and feeding. When they are up and growing well, I put them in the garden. I do the same with moss rose, except I plant the seeds in fiber pots because they don't like their roots disturbed.

Right now I am looking at replacing my wooly thyme because it has been in the walkways for 18 years and look very ragged. I think I will replace them with another treadable plant. I will get the seeds instead of the plants. 

Treadable plants, i.e  


Thymus praecox 'Pseudoanuginosus', Woolly Thyme 

Mentha requienii Corsican Mint

Thymus praecox 'Elfin' (Creeping Thyme)

If anyone has ideas for treadable groundcovers, please let me know. I am open to any ideas. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:27pm

Randall, I feel your pain over the dried out seeds.  I put in a walkway using pavers and decided to plant dichondra seeds along the edges and between the pavers. Alot of the seeds didn't come up even though I watered.  Now I have to go back and re-seed, but I'm afraid the water needed to germinate the new seed will be too much for the existing seedlings.  Any suggestions? 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:21pm

It's hard to imagine being in a home as long as you and Randall have.  I just purchased my home in January 2013. Some friends thought I was crazy to buy at my age, but I decided it was my last hurrah and I wanted to have a garden and space for my little dog to run and play. Now to just get some flowers and perennials to grow!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:18pm

I guess I'm lucky that the shrubs and tree I planted were able to take hold.  I wanted color and am on a limited budget so I purchased crape myrtles, added amendment, food and watered every week and voila, they are growing.  My house is on a zero lot line and the lot is very small, 40' wide so I needed things that didn't have invasive roots. I bought small 6' dwarf trees, and a 25' tree. They should flower by the end of the season and next year should make my back yard look a little more alive. I have space for another small tree and I would definitely like to add some kind of fruit or citrus tree. And the best part was I was able to do it myself. :)

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 7, 2014 at 9:12pm

Joan, I guess I'm lucky that I don't have to deal with caliche in my yard.  It's around the foundation of the house and that's all. The rest of my yard is clay. As most of the houses in my area I deal with cracks in the walls due to the contracting of the clay as it absorbs moisture and then dries out. Mostly drying out during the past few years.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2014 at 8:54pm

Still looking for the common name of the caliche mud, unsuccessfully. Found this description of it, but no other name. 

"It is the most exasperating glop you can imagine, and just a few steps will add pounds to your shoes, making them look like platform snowshoes. And trying to get it off is reminiscent of the Uncle Remus tale of Brer Rabbit and the tar baby. Each attempt finds you yet more inextricably affixed to this whitish supermuck and is sure to leave you with a story to tell."

A mud like no other …caliche 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 7, 2014 at 8:43pm

Barbara, I just ran across this article while trying to find the common name for caliche. I didn' find it, but found this instead: 

Caliche CO2 Feldspar And Climate Dust

We had a layer of hardpan, another name for the rock layer of caliche, that was about 3 feet below soil level. We drilled holes with a power drill to install some sports equipment in our back yard. When the drill hit the hardpan, we, on the other side of the yard, cold feel the drill. After we broke through, we planted a tree over the hole hoping to get some shade on the house. It seems that even roots can't break through hardpan and do poorly. It took all day to drill the holes for the tree and sports equipment. Really hard work. 


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