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Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo 3 minutes ago. 0 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim on Thursday. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 21, 2014 at 11:30am

Interestng idea - 

Hudson Valley Seed Library 

"Ken Greene started the Seed Library in 2004 while working as a Librarian at the Gardiner Public Library in Gardiner, New York. Having developed a strong interest in preserving heirloom seed varieties, he decided to add them to the library catalog so that patrons could "check them out," grow them in their home gardens, and then "return" saved seed at the end of the season. The program was a small but successful endeavor--one of the first of its kind in the country. After four years of running the program at the library, Ken and his partner Doug decided to turn the library into a mission-driven, homestead-based small business--which it still is today."

I'm really encouraged by now many grass-roots endeavors there are out there now to preserve and proliferate heritage, noncorporate seeds and pay them forward for new generations.  The seed library idea sounds awesome.

Comment by Plinius on January 21, 2014 at 7:48am

You give me energy, just by thinking of me! Thank you!

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 20, 2014 at 2:35am

Chris, your challenges are formidable just now. Your garden will wait until you have the energy and time to play again. You taking good care of yourself? 

Late winter color 

Comment by Plinius on January 20, 2014 at 1:44am

I'm afraid I'll have so much work for the next months that I can't even begin in my garden.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 19, 2014 at 9:12am

Thank you Patricia.  Anxious for Spring!  Still a long way away!

In this area, daffodils start pushing their first leaves out of the ground now.  That tells me there is life in there.  The garlic plants look pretty good for January.  But we can still have freezes until May.

It's mild now.  We are wondering about the lack of usual rain.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 18, 2014 at 10:12am


picture source: Wikipedia commons.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 18, 2014 at 10:09am

Changed the group badge, so anxious for Spring!  Thank you Chris for the beech branches we've been viewing the past few months.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 16, 2014 at 5:29pm

In two weeks is the local home improvement show.  Most likely they will have several sunroom displays.  Something to look forward to!

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 16, 2014 at 5:27pm

On seed catalogs -

I like what Joan had to say about goring to Dave's Garden website.  I have not done that much, but there is a lot of info there.

Gardenweb is good for some discussions but they may not allow discussing specific companies.  Also a lot of the forums I look at have too many naysayers who are just generally negative, and people who like to sound like they know it all without really being that knowledgeable.  Some kind of troll on their pet topics.

My experiences - you can google on the names of these places...

I like Victory Seeds.  Heritage, open pollinated seeds, looks like good northwest varieties. They sent the seeds promptly.  Limited selection.

I really like Seedsavers.  Again, open pollinated heritage varieties.  They are dedicated to preserving many varieties that would otherwise be lost.  I got my starts of multiplier onions, topset onions, and Inchelium Red garlic from them, and have been growing those for13 years.  Also some beans, tomatoes, peppers.  Everything I got form them grew and did as expected.

I like Southern Exposure even though  I'm not southern.  I ordered some short-season okra from them.  This area is not good for okra, but I have some ideas.  Nice catalog, all heritage varieties.

My guilty pleasure is Burpee.  I like their catalog and I do order from them, even when I insist I'm only ordering heritage varieties.  I think they are reliable and fast, at least for me.  Large selection. Nice pictures. 

Those are all prompt, have good solid varieties.

I agree with Joan about Wayside Gardens, which I think now has the same owner as Park's seeds.  Way overpriced for undersized items.  Whiteflower Farms, ditto.  The items I got from the didn't grow, and I paid too much.  Never, never, never, never order from Van Bourgondien.  Years ago they had some good items.  That is bulbs and perennials, not seeds.  I ordered from them a few times.  The last time, they sent items that should have been planted in July or August, in November.  They were dried out, brittle, and several did not grow.  They continue to spam me over and over, with "sales" and stuff even though I keep blocking their web address- they seem to change their address or get around it. 

Many years ago I ordered a fig tree from Wayside.  It was overpriced, but I wanted a fig tree and didn't know about other resources then.  For something like $30, it was about 1 foot tall, a stick.  It took quite a number of years to get figs, and now is a very nice tree and has lots of figs.  Really not bad, just took a long time to get there.  Since then they have been selling figs trees with the same picture, under a different name, then a 3rd name.  You can get bigger, better, cheaper, from other sources.

Like Raintree nursery - they have been reliable.  I've ordered many fruit trees from them.  I've been happy with every order.

One Green World - they sent way undersized trees, they don't list the tree size.

I don't have much experience with Territorial Seeds.

For bearded iris, the best experience for me is Schreiner's.  Big fat healthy rhizomes, bloom the next year.  Rhizomes from some of the nurseries above, skinny, dried out, some died.

Sounds like there are too many places I don't care for.  But some I do.  It's all based on experience.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 16, 2014 at 3:17pm

Spud, I like your idea about finding out about seed companies. So many that I have trusted for years have been sold and gone downhill. i.e. Wayside Gardens. I learned about Wayside when I was majoring in horticulture at WSU in 1955. It was a great company; sadly its reputation has gone down since its sale. 

I agree about Gurney's and Park seed companies. Not the best rated as far as I can tell from gardeners with whom I correspond. 

I have subscribed to Daves Garden for years. It is a to-go-to-place for evaluations by other gardeners. I Bookmarked their seed pages and have not seen the page you recommended. After reading it, I say this is the place to go for getting unbiased information: 

http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/#b

I don't like getting catalogues in the mail unless I request them because I want to save trees. The internet works great for me, except I love having my Seeds of Change Organic Seeds beside me for relaxing browsing. 

www.seedsofchange.com.

and

http://www.gardeners.com/Outdoor-Gardening/OutdoorGardening_SD,defa... 

 

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