Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 180
Latest Activity: on Saturday

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Old and Green. Gardening with an older body.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 33 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo on Friday. 0 Replies

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

Growing Tomatoes in Martian Soil

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7. 6 Replies

Bring On The Soldier Flies!

Started by Joan Denoo Jun 5. 0 Replies

Urban Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 3. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on November 2, 2013 at 11:14pm

Joan I think I will move the Jerusalem artichokes to a different location where I will give them more compost much and water.  I read they are next to impossible to get rid of.  One writer stated they would survive a nuclear explosion.  I don't think they are that tough.  But I want them to thrive, not just survive.

That iris surprised me.  The variety is called "Sunny Disposition".  I bought it mail order from a catalog about 13 years ago.  It's pretty tough but never bloomed in fall before.  Multiplies fast.  I've given away lots of rhizomes.  Nice fragrance.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 2, 2013 at 11:10pm
Oh my gosh! that beautiful yellow iris! What a treasure!. Yes, my witch hazel is in full bloom and much earlier that ever. Your maple compost pile is a goldmine and will repay you mightily. Will you put a few Jerusalem artichokes in boxes so it will be easier to keep grass pulled out?
Comment by Daniel W on November 2, 2013 at 6:19pm

Joan I'm back to work.  I have to continue, so might as well jump in feet first.  Today I rest, tomorrow do online work so when I am back to the office on Monday it's not too backlogged.

Today I raked leaves.  We have a big maple, trunk diameter is greater than moth of my arms spread out.  So I'm guessing over 6 ft.  It makes a lot of leaves.  I view that as a harvest, not a chore.  I made a big pile.  They will sit there through the winter and become dark brown and crinkly, partially composted.  Then They'll be mulch for trees and shrubs.

I mowed part of my little orchard, then it started to rain.  The grass clippings go for mulch, this time around a row of buddleias I planted last winter.  They grew like crazy.  They are sterile hybrids - the standard buddleia is an invasive weed in maritime NW but these don't make seeds.  They are one of the few things still blooming.

Except this bearded iris, which is kind of confused about when they are intended to bloom.

Joan, I'm surprised your witch hazel is blooming.  I thought they waited for late winter.  Nice surprise!

Randall, I don't know what to do about voles.  Something chewed on a couple of my young fig saplings already.  Last year the animal waited until december.  I wrapped them in tree wrap, then put a  sleeve of hardware cloth around each.  We'll see if that helps.

I dug up a couple of Jerusalem artichokes today.  Any I don't dig up will come up next year, from what I read.  They didn't have much of a chance - no water all summer, and the grass took over.  But there were some nice tubers.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 2, 2013 at 7:31am

Wind and rain pretty much ruined autumn colors here (IN), although my red maple tree remains a gorgeous orange-gold. I'm debating on whether to dig up my beets, parsnips and carrots, or cover them with leaves. They "winter through", but are eaten by worms and voles. There's gonna be an all-out war on voles next year! (Check out my coming blog post on a book review.) 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 1, 2013 at 1:51am

Daniel, how are you feeling after your adventure? Are you back to work already? 

My Witch Hazel is in full bloom and just outstanding. The leaves are off most of the trees, leaving this shrub/tree standing in all its yellow glory like a breath of autumn ... a surprise when everything else is going to sleep. 

The leaves on my star magnolia turned a very nice brown, with just a tint of magenta. None has fallen; it is just across the walk from the Witch hazel and they make a lovely pair.  

Winds have pretty much swiped through the deciduous shrubs and trees, leaving the empty branches prepared for winter's snow. We haven't had snow, but several nights of killing frost.  

Thanks for book recommendations, Randall and Daniel; they are on my to-read list. The long, cold winter has begun with those harsh cold winds; snow will probably be here by Thanksgiving.  

Comment by Daniel W on October 31, 2013 at 10:09pm


Thanks for the recommendation.

For another one - Amy Stewart's book about earthworms is pretty good.  I don't think it's worth buying it, but if you can get a library copy it's worth a read.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 28, 2013 at 8:27am

For anyone that enjoys growing flowers, I highly recommend Cultivating Delight, by Diane Ackerman (author of The Zookeeper's Wife). She's a great writer. I considered inserting a sentence or two, but couldn't decide which one--so many to choose from!. Written in '01. 

And to answer Sentient's question about my persimmons, I ate me first ones yesterday! Plump and yummy! Small crop this year, but super big (golf ball size). Once fallen to earth, I have to beat the oppossums (coons?) to them.

Comment by Daniel W on October 27, 2013 at 1:42am


Thank you for the welcome back.

Slept late today.  Still a bit foggy brained and not at all enthusiastic about returning to work!

But today I did clear out 1/2 of a raised bed, added some chicken manure compost, and planted shallots for next year.  And added some compost much around a few fruit trees.

Comment by Daniel W on October 26, 2013 at 5:23am
Joan you are right, Woke up at 1 am. Now back to bed.
in the Battleground yard, a confused bearded iris is blooming. Brilliant yellow and fragrant. Strange and lovely among the deteriorating leaves. Persimmon leaves are red/yellow.
Randall how are your persimmons doing?
Spud thanks for your melon inspiration. Will try next year!
Chris I like that expression! I used to feed treats to my cat when I was a student studying for exams and stressed. Whin I was stressed she gained weight!
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 26, 2013 at 3:15am

I suppose Daniel has arrived home by now and has a real case of jet lag. Hope he rests comfortably and restores his energy. 


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