Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Daniel W on June 2, 2014 at 1:23pm

king, nice photo.  Now you know how to post photos of your gardening!  Excellent!

Spud I wouldn't throw away the plant.  I don't  think the bacteria will hurt you or anyone else.  By the time they get to the melon stage, they will be long gone from competition by soil bacteria, sun, and watering. 

I think I'm done staring seeds this year.  I bought melon seeds but they will have to wait for 2015.  I wore out.  Next winter I want to build a couple more protected  raised beds, so the animals don't get ahead of me.  That needs to be a winter project, plus I have a neighbor building a road on their easement on my property, and I want to see where that winds up before putting in more effort.

The herbivore predation  is the main limiting factor at the moment.  Most edible plants need protection.  And my cancer / treatment drains me, and work.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 2, 2014 at 12:54pm

Some of your dandelions too I see.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 2, 2014 at 12:44pm

Daniel, I think you said how your watermelon experiment went last year, but I forgot and would like to know.  And, are you going to try again this year?

Today, I received some watermelon seeds that my extension agent recommended, "Blacktail Mountain" (65-75 days) and "Cream of Saskatchewan" (80-85 days) from the "Seed Savers Exchange".

A month ago, I tried to order them from the only one of the top 30 companies that had both kinds in "Dave's Garden" site, but it wouldn't take my payment either directly or with pay-pal, and they wanted an extra $8+ for telephone orders, so I didn't order.

My 5 other kinds of watermelons that I'm starting in containers have all popped-up and are basking in the sun as I type.

I'll probably start the two I got today in containers tomorrow.  I don't feel like doing much today because my digestive system has been giving me trouble (WARNING: GROSS ALERT).

Yesterday evening, I started having a lot of pain in my lower digestive tract, and kept going to the toilet, with softer poop each time.  After a while, just in case, I left my clothing off, and good thing.  I suddenly got the urge with the toilet only 5 seconds away, but it came squirting-out in 3 seconds.  And most of it landed on one of my containers that had watermelon seeds in.  Well, I didn't want to start over, so I scraped it off and scooped out one inch of potting soil under it, hoping the liquid part of the poop hadn't went down further than that, or that my own poop wouldn't cause me any ill effects when I ate those melons.  What do you guys think?  Should I throw that one away and start it again?

Comment by king on June 2, 2014 at 12:40pm

this is a bit of a test but theres are smoe of my tulips 

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 2, 2014 at 12:18pm

King, I've an Apple iMac computer, so I'm not sure if it works the same as a Windows computer, but here's how I do it.  

I put the picture on the desktop so it's easy to find.

I then left click at the place in this box where I want the image to be.

I then left click on the picture image at the top of this box.  It's the icon just after the word "LINK", and just before the video icon.

When I click that icon, a box will pop-up that says "ADD IMAGE" with a couple of options in it.  The default option is called "From My Computer", and has a box drawn around it.  Below that is "File" and "Choose File" with a rounded box drawn around it.  

I click on "Choose File" and another box pops-up with a list of programs and the "Desktop" highlighted.  To the right of that is a list of files, and I click on the image file I want.

Comment by king on June 2, 2014 at 10:19am

i started some eastern white pine witch are native here and i have luck with seeds before and a couple bule spruce not native but what the heck ok question on posting i have pic on my PC how do i post them here

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 2, 2014 at 10:05am

Air layering sounds easier.  Thanks.

Comment by Daniel W on June 2, 2014 at 10:04am

Oh, on how to identify a grafted tree.  Often you can see the graft point as swelling or irregular area near ground level.  It can have a swelling or change in the bark appearance.  I would not let that stop me from trying cuttings.  It's all an experiment.

Comment by Daniel W on June 2, 2014 at 9:58am


That's an interesting project.  I've thought about starting apples or crabapples from cuttings too.

Most nursery stock is grafted because it's fast and easy.  Some don't root easily from cuttings.  Sometimes they use seedlings for rootstock, and sometimes they use specialized rootstock that are adapted to local soils, or disease resistant, or have benefits such as dwarfing the tree to specific sizes.

Crab apples and apples should be interchangible as far as rootstocks are concerned.  Crab apples are often used as pollinator trees for apples, so they are closely related and hybridize.

A lot of apple rootstocks are made by a type of cutting technique, although the method leaves the stems connected to the parent plant until they grow roots.  So that indicates to me that apples should be reasonably easy to root.  I haven't tried.  Yet.

One option would be air layering.   Here is a link about that.  Here is another description.  I have not done air layering, but am thinking about it for some lilacs and a cherry tree.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 2, 2014 at 8:33am

Daniel, I plan on trying a cutting from a crab apple tree again this fall, but what you said made me think that it may be on a rootstock.

If so, will it have a larger area just above ground level, and if so, my cutting will still grow true correct?  But it would probably be best to plant a seed for a rootstock first.  Is that correct?


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