Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 31, 2014 at 12:46pm

If there is a surplus of large clay pots, maybe lining them with plastic would help with water conservation? I've been doing that with wooden containers. I use the tough woven plastic from big dog food bags. Other plastic would work equally well. I line the sides and part of the bottom, leaving opening for drainage.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 12:41pm

I overestimated how large the cheap containers were.  When I stretched-out my hands to the diameter I remember them being, and measured between my hands, it was more like 2.5 feet instead of 3-4.

I liked the $17 one because it had double-wall construction which would help it moderate the temperature.

If I use one of my plastic trash cans or containers, I'll insulate them.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 12:36pm

Joan, I love the look of moss.  If I ever use clay pots, I'll try the buttermilk.

I've never tried drip irrigation, even though it sounds like a great idea, because I thought the heads would clog-up too easily with my very hard water.  Do they?

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 12:28pm

I love plain old clay pots, they have a pretty patina with age, and if I soak them in buttermilk, I get a very nice moss that is pleasing to my eye and senses. Problem, they dry out very fast. The only way I find to manage that is to have them on pot drip lines. So I line up my little and big pots, string the line across them and install drip heads. I put the system on a timer so I don't have to tend to them at all, except to keep everything working as it should. 

The same principle applies to any kind of pot material. If you discover the pots get too hot, or need more heat, you can move pots easily and restring the water supply. 

Using concrete blocks is a good idea for all the reasons noted. Potatoes are heavy feeders, so keep that fertilizer coming. Preferably steer manure, but any natural manure works; the plants don't care from where their food comes, they just like food, regularly ... not too much, not too little. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 10:12am

I do like your idea of using stacked concrete blocks for growing potatoes, because you can take them down once piece at a time for harvesting, and put them back together.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 10:09am

Thanks for reminding me Daniel.  I do have a large rectangular Rubbermaid container, and I think it only cost $15.  Then there's the $10 and $15 large (2 ft diameter, 4 ft tall) plastic trash containers that I use to catch rainwater.  Do you think they would work well?  Or, is it better to use something not as tall and wider?

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 31, 2014 at 9:53am

Spud, I like containers because they are more controllable, and warm up earlier, and the soil stays warmer.  Those are helpful in a cool climate for tomatoes, peppers, and other plants.  Some people use the big rectangular Rubbermaid containers.  Anything the right size, with lots of drainage.  I use a power drill and drill many 1/2 inch holes in the bottom.

The down side is if it's hot or sunny, mine overheat.  Last year's fig starts needed water every day.  But they grew like gangbusters.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 30, 2014 at 7:18pm

I just may try some container gardening this year.  Yesterday I was looking for some things in a discount store and saw some very large containers (3-4 foot diameter), for $17 to $25.  On Monday (payday), I think I'll go back and buy one or two.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on January 26, 2014 at 2:36pm

I like the container because it seems so much easier.   Also a lot can grow in a small space.

I've also grown potatoes in the ground.   I always miss some digging them up. 

Either way, they have more flavor and a nicer texture, and there are so many specialty types to grow.  This year I want to grow them that way again.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 26, 2014 at 1:16pm

I've not tried container potatoes, did try putting them on top of the soil and covering them with straw, then adding straw as they grew up.  Pulling back the straw to harvest a few at a time was easy.  I only tried it one year and got fair results if I remember right.


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