Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: Jan 8

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Randall Smith on April 9, 2014 at 7:01am

Patricia, I love those monkey orchids!

Daniel, don't overdo it--work, that is.

Spud, I still marvel at the size of trees I planted 35 years ago. Some, I wish I hadn't planted, like willow and silver maple. They're quick growing but messy and thirsty. I don't have the courage to cut them down.

Comment by Daniel W on April 8, 2014 at 12:33pm
Joan now all I need is to build a fortress to protect us froun the rioting masses....

Im anxiously awaithin the bee shipment. Should be in a week or two. Two hines. I cleaned and scrubbed them thoroughly with an organic detergent and peroxide.

I made my raised beds one weekend T a time. Day one. buy wood snd screws. Day two. Cut end boards and supports. Day 3. Screw them together. Day 4. Cut the wire mesh for bottom. Day 5. Staple lining - plastic dog food bags - and staple wire mesh bottom. Day 6. Mix compost and soil and fill. Day. 7. Rest.
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 8, 2014 at 11:18am

Daniel, good news about your elevation if the climate change predictions prove to be correct, with a 20 foot sea rise in the next fifty years. You are high and dry for the rest of your life. You live each day with way more energy than I have. I simply marvel at your being able to work and putter in your garden as much as you do. 

Cary is in the garden putting together a new garden tractor and kneeler that should help me endure longer periods of puttering.

Gardener's Supply Company, Tractor Skoot 


This catalog has a lot of ideas for raised beds. Their products are expensive, but at least you can get an idea for what you need. I especially like their ideas for wheelchair access to raised beds. One of our local nursing homes used their ideas and had their handyman build them some. The wheelchair people love them and even some others are using them.

You are so clever at building things, all you need is the idea. 

By the way, what is the status of you bee hive? Did you get your new shipment of bees? 

Comment by Daniel W on April 8, 2014 at 10:44am
Joan, that log is beautiful!

I think the Maadrone I planted last fall is dead. I knew it was a long shot. They are hard to start and the winter started out very harsh.
Comment by Daniel W on April 8, 2014 at 10:41am

Joan, the Battleground place is listed by google as 245 feet.  One side is a hill, so the top seems like it is about 20 feet higher than the lower part.   My home in Vancouver is listed as 212 feet.  I don't know about the accuracy of those listings.

Spud I like that saying too.  I am happy for the past trees I planted.  I have one in my yard I planted there 15 years ago, from a seedling I started 4 years prior.  So it is almost that 20 years.

Every tree I plant is an expression of accepting uncertainty.  I would like to see them settle in and mature.  I know there is a significant chance I won't. 

The Greenspire Linden I planted summer 2012 should have a big burst of growth this year, having had a chance to settle in.  A maple I moved as a volunteer seedling the same year, grew to a single stick, about 15 feet tall last year.  The Sourwood I planted last fall is budding out now.  An American Linden I planted winter 2012 / 2013 is budding out now.  It's smaller but should gave a big burst of growth this year.

Randall I hope you get some apricots.  They are next to impossible here.  I think about your persimmons.  Mine are at the sapling stage, doubt any fruit this year.  If I get peaches and plums I will be delighted.

Today:  More pepper plants to go into poly tunnel raised beds.  Start Tomato seeds, Okra seeds, Phacelia for bees.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 8, 2014 at 10:13am

Joan, I like the saying that "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago."  

However, being the picky guy that I am, I would say the second best time was 19 years ago, and the third....

Comment by Randall Smith on April 8, 2014 at 8:00am

Speaking of trees, I pruned one of my two Mandarin apricots yest. In the 30 years of their existance, I've had only one "crop". Hope springs eternal. With the harsh winter we've had, I doubt if I have any fruit of any kind this year. I know I won't have peaches, almonds, or nectarines. :(

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 8, 2014 at 12:24am

Daniel, what is the elevation of your home and property, if you don't mind my asking. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 8, 2014 at 12:24am
"The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now."
~ Chinese Proverb
via  @EricDahl509 on Twitter. 
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 8:01pm


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