Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Latest Activity: Jul 23

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo Jul 21. 0 Replies

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

Growing Tomatoes in Martian Soil

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7. 6 Replies

Bring On The Soldier Flies!

Started by Joan Denoo Jun 5. 0 Replies

Urban Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 3. 1 Reply

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Comment by Plinius on October 6, 2013 at 12:12am

Those melons look good!

I found three tomatoes, stil green. I'm not sure about the right time to harvest, but the temperature is going down so I put them on a sunny window sill to ripen.

I sowed beetroots a few times this year. Most young plants disappeared without a trace but a white variety developed into strong healthy plants - and that's all they did! Not one beetroot! I'm still wondering what I did wrong.

Harvested and froze a lot of herbs, and had garlic from my roof garden the whole summer.

But it was a strange year: we had an unusually cold spring and after that everything happened two months late. The lime trees have just dropped their seeds and I I have gor a white phlox still blooming - I've never seen this in October!

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 5, 2013 at 3:41pm

OK, I get it now Joan.  Thanks for the hat-tip.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 5, 2013 at 1:51pm

Spud, I noticed that and tried to find a gif that the Cat made a hat-tip. I found no such thing. So a Hat in the Cat will have to do for now. 

Your photos just make my heart sing! Congrats!

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 5, 2013 at 1:47pm

Ha!  Joan, that looks more like hat in the cat!

And Sentinet, zucchinis have been prolific everywhere I've been!

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 5, 2013 at 1:34pm

Oh! You guys make my day! what joyous sights, and reports! I haven't tried melons in years and will do so next spring. I sent for a heirloom, organic seed catalog the other day and have a list going. I think I will stay with 50-60 day maturity, even though some of the growing zones show Spokane moving into zone 6. I don't believe it. Especially with our last three nights with light frost on the garage roof. Frost has not hit the lone volunteer tomato plant yet and I may cut off one branch that has some very green Sun Gold cherry tomatoes on it. 

A hat tip to both Daniel and Spud for your fine results and experiments. Next summer should be less busy than this. And we have learned so much from each other. 

Seed heads form on my sunflowers as the yellow petals drop. The birds will have a fine harvest. Squrrels are so very busy and they leave big messes as they bury their Horse chestnuts. We should have a magnificent forest of chestnuts growing next spring ... and I will be ready for the challenge. 

I hope this Cat in the Hat gif works. 

Cat in the Hat gif

Comment by Daniel W on October 5, 2013 at 1:31pm


This was my first year attempting melons, so I'm still learning.  I would like to do better next year.

Other vine plants, like cucumbers and zucchinis, do well here.  There have been some to pick at least once a week, several at a time.

I also got 3 squashes on a butternut squash plant.  That was planted as an afterthought.  They were located in soil where I had compost piled up last year, and removed all of the compost for the raised beds.  They probably still benefited from what leached out.  Anxious to see how those taste too.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 5, 2013 at 1:14pm

Sentient, congratulations on the cantaloupes.  I may try that variety next year.   After that one cantaloup that spent most of the year in a pot, and I waited too long to harvest, the vines finally took-off and looked very healthy, but didn't have time to grow any more melons.

The last time I checked my large watermelon, it had green tendrils near the melon.  Today they were tan and dried.  The bottom of the melon looked a little yellow:

Comment by Daniel W on October 5, 2013 at 12:41pm


Those are beautiful melons. 

Last week I harvested my "one" Blacktail Mountain melon.  I think it was underripe.  I looked at the web, most sites said the underside should be yellow.  Or the stem should be dried out instead of green.  Mine was faded but not yellow.  The stem was still green.  Inside was salmon pink, not terrible but I think red would indicate ripeness.

Meanwhile an animal ate a big hole in my other melon, a small yellow variety.  So much for that!

The "Minnesota midget" cantaloupes were good.Grapefruit to Orange size.  Only a few spoons full in each one, but worth the effort.  I think with small size, they had better chance to ripen.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 5, 2013 at 12:32pm

The first frost came this morning (28 F), so I harvested all my watermelon.  I was surprised by how much they weighed.    

The 3 on the right are Moon and Stars, and weighed 51, 34, and 18 pounds.  I read that they are supposed to be between 20 and 50 pounds.  The  two on the left are Sugar Baby and weigh 5 and 0.75 pounds.  

However, the taste was very disappointing.  They were mealy, with a weak watery flavor. I think they were over-ripe.

I expect to do better next year.

Comment by Daniel W on October 2, 2013 at 10:36pm


The volunteer sungolds were a gift from nature. 

I would not have tried Hawaiian Pineapple except it was grafted.  I thought the extra vigor might overcome the 80 day aspect.  I don't know if it did - too much chaos this year. 

I thought the plant must have a compromise - energy going to tomatoes would not be going to potatoes, and vice versa.  But maybe that's OK - it looks like a vigorous plant.


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