Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 17, 2015 at 8:41am

Plinius, I quite like the idea of your hidden garden and that it is a surprise to your guests. :)  Not sure how I thought they multiplied, but didn't know snails laid eggs. During the period of heavy rain I had tons of them, so much so my walkway became "crunchy" each time I went out.  Did you use anything to eliminate them? 

Comment by Plinius on June 16, 2015 at 1:34pm

My garden is quite hidden: third floor (you'd call it fourth floor) and only visible from my apartment or from the neighbours'. But the people who visit me are pleasantly surprised.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 16, 2015 at 12:35pm

Plinius, that's nice that you are the oasis keeper of the block!  Does anyone see and comment on it?

Comment by Plinius on June 16, 2015 at 7:11am

Spud, my roof garden is the oasis of the block! There is little space to make a garden here and I'm almost the only one who does. Neighbours left and right only come home to sleep but they don't really live here. One has a deceased hydrangea but that's it. So the snails and the other vermin will come here and do everything they can think of. The birds stay away though, I think because of Luna's powerful cursing. And I haven't seen Daniel's big rabbits yet.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 15, 2015 at 3:11pm

Forever learning.  I now start almost everything in pots, and get much better success.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 15, 2015 at 1:11pm

Daniel, maybe birds is why my peas only get 10% germination.  Last year, I started some in pots, and had much better success.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 15, 2015 at 1:06pm

Plinius, sorry about your Swiss chard eaten by those greedy snails.  Do you think they're laying eggs in your potting soil?

I don't have nearly as many hungry critters as most of you, but with as few strawberries as I have in my small garden, and how much I love them, it bugs me when any are eaten by squirrels, birds, or slugs.  I pick the ones that are visible before they're fully ripe, in order to get some of them before the wildlife.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 15, 2015 at 9:00am

Randall, actually when I think about it I'm the winner - I get his excess water and he got my web worms. right now water seems excessive, but in another month or so it will be welcome.  June is a good month for vacation, maybe that is where your moles have gone?  lol 

Comment by Randall Smith on June 15, 2015 at 7:19am

Barbara, it's hard enough fighting your own garden battles, but with a neighbor to contend with, it gets even tougher!  Getting rid of the Mulberry tree is a good idea, however. They are a mess.

I didn't try to plant cantaloupe this year. I've failed every year for the past 10 (at least). Besides, I couldn't eat them fast enough.

And hurray, I have seen any evidence of moles in a week. Did I get them all?!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 14, 2015 at 8:25am

Kathy, I firmly believe 'every drop counts' when it comes to water so a big "Yes!" to you and your efforts. After 5 years we are finally out of the drought - we had enough rain these past months to cover the entire state of TX in 8" of water - something like 35 trillion gallons of water.

Summer heat is upon us and I've pretty much retreated inside. I finally found a plant which I think will survive the 120F heat on my patio area ... Azadirachta indica, Neem Tree. I have ordered some seeds and I'm going to attempt to grow them in pots. Amazing tree is used for many things. 

I have three cantaloupe! One is the biggest one I have ever seen. I placed a piece of cardboard under it and now to see if it survives until its ripe. Squash, squash, squash everywhere! I even have squash growing in my front yard. A lady asked me yesterday, "is that squash?" and when I told her yes, she was silent for a moment and then said "I don't think I've ever seen that before".  lol Wait til next year and I have other edibles growing. The squash was a test case and I merely planted some grocery store squash seeds around the base of my tree. 

The bunnies have a new home - there simply wasn't enough shade for them and the nasty old mesquite tree dripped on them too. They have gone to live in the country with chickens and goats. :) 

I had a local certified arborist come and talk with me about the trees; the mulberry was loaded with tent catepillars (my neighbor was not happy as he said they migrated to his trees) and as I said the mesquite tree was dripping like crazy, something I had not had before.  Also, so many people go through a semi-annual "chop and hack away at trees" and I wanted some good advice on trimming my trees.  The verdict: cut down the mulberry as it is 5" from the fence line and the utility company will just hack away at it too, and it will be a constant problem with the worms. It was small tree and I was able to do that. Kept a trunk and a couple small branches to hang bird feeders from.  Mesquite tree already has a metal rod in it and he said in a year I will need to have a metal cable put higher up to help support it, otherwise the dripping is what mesquite trees do, especially in wet weather. My trees were 'pruned' (topped) heavily a couple years ago, prior to my buying the house,  and he said to leave them alone and in the Fall of 2016 to call them and they would come and put cable in mesquite and do a proper pruning for everything else.

Ta daaaaa ... and in place of the mulberry tree I will be planting a fig tree, six feet from fence line come November. 

Cucumbers are my other success story - I've decided I like cucumbers sliced very thin and then add sour cream and dill, let sit until chilled and then enjoy. Granted more calories then plain. I gave several to neighbor as a "I'm sorry for the web worms". lol 

Bottom line: I've lost more plants to too much water than I have to heat and not getting enough water. :(  My neighbor has planted many veggies on the other side of the fence - on my side are heat loving drought tolerant and water hating perennials - and they are struggling from all the water that drains from my neighbor's over watering.  sighhhhhh. 

Keep up the good fight folks with with birds, moles, deer, et al! I don't know if I'm lucky I don't have those issues or maybe I just don't see any damage - yet!  I love reading about your efforts of battling them.  Randall, my holes are getting bigger so I don't know if my moles are eating well or if there is something else enjoying the fruits of my labor. 


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