Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on July 9, 2016 at 10:19am

Pumpkins are enlarging day by day.

Tigridias blooming

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on July 9, 2016 at 10:12am

Kathy, I've grown frustrated about what people and communities do to "neaten up" the fence rows and roadways, and their lawns and yards.  I did put up signs on my fences, showing that my 2 acres are registered with the state as "Backyard wildlife habitat".  That is my attempt at propaganda, plus to keep the neighbors from complaining too much.

The state website actually tells people to leave more vegetation.  So I have that support, if neighbors complain.

My site is on a slope.  I thought the Joe Pye Weed and milkweed did not survive the winter, and put in some recycled concrete chunks to terrace that area.  They chunks were almost on top of the Joe Pye Weed.  It grew anyway, but may not be as tall.  Some of the milkweeds got catnip planted almost on top of them, but they did OK.  One did very well, is so fragrant and beautiful.  I want to save more seeds from that to plant more next year.

This is not all inclusive, but I planted the following to support bees and native pollinating insects -

4 European lindens for nectar and pollen

1 American linden for nectar and pollen

1 Sourwood for nectar and pollen

A row of willow for pollen

plus we replaced to big patches of lawn with wildflower meadow.  The meadow has been evolving, in spring is mostly California poppy and lupine, and in summer is mostly Shasta daisy. 

I also planted mints, oregano, catnip, bee friend (phaselia), borage, and California lilac.

My neighbors mostly have lawn and some evergreen trees.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 9, 2016 at 9:55am

Chris, I don't know, but I like your beautiful garden.   That tayberry has recovered nicely from it's dumpster grave.  Good for you!

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on July 9, 2016 at 9:46am
Cenek, maybe those bacteria could be used to feed the soil for a Martian garden.
Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on July 9, 2016 at 9:44am
Chris, your hollyhocks are beautiful. Im not sure, but I think tayberries are floricane brambles. That would meAn they usually bloom on second year growth. Growing in containers might change that. I dont think there is a truly right or wrong answer.
Comment by Plinius on July 9, 2016 at 9:26am

And now the question for the real gardeners:

in the middle my famous tayberry, rescued from a dumpstore last year. As you see it's almost 3 metres high and won't stop there, but only one branch has started to flower so far. Should I prune the other branches, or let it grow on until the neighbour calls for help?

Comment by Čenek Sekavec on July 6, 2016 at 9:15pm

New form of bacteria discovered

I doubt this is immediately relevant to our gardens but I'm not sure where else to put it. Enjoy.

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 5, 2016 at 3:03pm

Kathy, I live in the city, and don't like the spraying that's done here.  I grow things to eat next to the alley, so I get rid of the weeds between my plants and the alley, as soon as they appear, so my produce doesn't get sprayed.

Comment by k.h. ky on July 5, 2016 at 2:00pm
I just spoke to a neighbor and he's having blooms drop from the squash and cukes to. Not much fruit setting.
I'll google sexing the plants and try to determine how and hand pollinate as you suggested Daniel. It certainly won't hurt to try it. The Joe Pye came back from last year but it's not thriving. Only the three original plants returned. One is trying to bloom but if the rain continues I doubt it will make it. Milkweed is my new project. I get upset about all the random (to me) clearing of'weeds' by the county. Indiscriminate spaying of herbicides and the unnecessary cutting anything that's within twenty ft of the roads. No wonder bees and butterflies are disappearing. It's sad.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 5, 2016 at 12:31pm

Randy, just a quick thought, I am late for a Drs appt. 

I toss my weeds with dirt hanging on them into an old wheelbarrow that has holes in it and then use water to blast dirt off. Kind of like placer mining. 

Another technique is put them in a wheelbarrow and let them dry out and then knock off the soil. 


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