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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Homestead Automation: Automating the Chickshaw Part 1

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo 17 hours ago. 1 Reply

Hope in the Middle of Big Ag

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 31, 2017 at 3:29pm

Daniel, I am just getting the hang of greenhouse gardening. Some of the lettuce crops that I started in the home have grown their life-cycle, I think, and I can start some other seeds in the greenhouse that will mature before the first frosts... 

Beans, ContenderKentucky WonderTopcrop

Beets, Detroit Dark Red

Cabbage, Premium Late Flat DutchGolden AcreMichihili

CarrotsLittle FingerScarlet Nantes

CornPeaches and CreamIncredibleSugar Buns

CucumbersSpacemaster 80MuncherMarketmore 76

Herbs: basil, oregano, thyme and sage. Italian BasilGreek OreganoDill

MelonsSuggested variety: Sugar BabyCrimson SweetHales Best

PeasSuggested variety: Sugar AnnOregon Giant

Summer SquashSuggested Varieties: CocozelleWaltham Butternut


Comment by Daniel W on May 31, 2017 at 3:19pm

Kathy, astilbes are really nice.  I bet it's a pretty sight.

I didn't know you were on 2 acres, same as us.  Even with the house and garden, and trees and chicken yard, it's quite a bit to mow.  We made some mistakes with spacing, otherwise we could use the riding mower for more than we do.  I'm going to move some fencing and think about how to make edges more riding mower friendly for the future.

Isn't it great when you convert hard clay dirt into nice garden soil!  You can almost hear the earth say "thank you!".

My tomatoes are looking a little peaked.  It's soon after transplanting, but it's possible I gave them too much lime.  My soil is very calcium deficient and very acidic, which I'm thinking is why there was so much blossom end rot last year.  I added lime to prevent that, but maybe too much?  Or maybe it's just adjusting to outdoor life after sprouting and growing them indoors.

This is the first daylily that I've grown from flower to seed to plant to flower.  I play mad scientist and transfer pollen from flowers or one color, to stigmas on flowers of another color.  Then let the seed pods ripen, take out the seeds, and grow them.  Lots of them grow, but then slugs and rabbits destroy most of them.  This is the first that has made it to bloom.  It's nice, a little odd petal shape but the first flowers are not always how the later ones will look.  I"m not certain, but I think this is the progeny of an old rust and gold colored heritage variety called "Frans Hals", and another old pink variety called "Luxury Lace".

Comment by kathy: ky on May 31, 2017 at 9:22am
Astilbe.
Comment by kathy: ky on May 31, 2017 at 12:30am
I always have great luck starting plants from cuttings. Trees and shrubs anyway. Things with rigid stems. Not any luck with flower cuttings. I think they take more patience than I have.
Comment by kathy: ky on May 31, 2017 at 12:25am
Beautiful photos. I noticed yesterday my aster has bloomed. Not aster! Which one is it that blooms in heavy shade?? I hate when that happens!
I feel for you Daniel. I've taken up all the yard work except the mowing. Mowing the two acres, plus everything else, is more than I can find time for. We pay a friend to come and do it. With all the rain it's having to be mowed every week. Sometimes more often.
I love the alliums but I don't think I get enough sun for them. I scattered sunflower seeds on the side yard that's been lying fallow for three years. The rock hard red clay has turned into workable soil after being bedded down with straw and leaves, with some compost thrown in, for that time. I forgot to tell the man who has been mowing to leave it. I may have to bed it down with straw again if it starts washing off. There's some grass and some weeds growing there that I've been leaving to help hold the soil. I hadn't decided what to put there. With all the cold and rain, and everything else, I haven't had time to give it much thought :(
Comment by Daniel W on May 30, 2017 at 9:34pm

I remember my grandfather's sisters used to take slips from roses that they liked, and stick them into the ground to start new plants.  Without meaning to, Ive carried on that practice with various plants.  I try to show people it can be done, and continue that for another generation.  We have many plants that I started from cuttings - roses, but more fig trees, some plum trees, forsythia, willows, and offsets from lilacs and viburnum, oriental poppy from root cuttings, and various trees from seeds.  They dont have to come from stores.

Joan, you may have to use some psychology :-).  However this year it may be past the season for nes hatchlings.  That will give time to prepare the way for next year!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 30, 2017 at 7:20pm

Of course, a horse chestnut tree! I didn't have one in my yard in Spokane, but a neighbor did, and the squirrels planted many in my garden, which I quickly pulled out. It was too big for my little city lot and all the other things I grew. 

I wonder if Laura and Larry would go along with having running ducks? They are so pretty, they have interesting behavior patterns, they eat slugs and they don't tear up vegetable gardens. I'll have to approach the topic gently. 

Daniel, your yellow rose has a very nice shape and the bud can stand up to any other variety. Your alliums remind me of my home. That gives me a comforting feeling. 

I like your decision to thin the buds to get bigger fruit. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 30, 2017 at 12:34pm

I like those purple allium globes.  Very attractive.  The yellow rose is also.

Comment by Daniel W on May 30, 2017 at 9:40am

Thanks Joan,  I'll add a couple more photos.  The pink flower is from a horse chestnut tree.  Up close, one can hear the tree buzzing with all of the honeybees and bumblebees seeking nectar. 

I have told Ning about the difference between a calf, cow, heifer, bull, and steer.  He's amused that we have words for each of those.  Now we can add ducking, duck, hen, drake.  My understanding is that ducks will pull off some leaves to eat, but they don't scratch in the ground at all, so there is less destruction than with hens.  They seem to be eating bugs or worms in the grass, they are always sticking their bills into the vegetation.  I haven't been able to explain why ducks have bills, while chickens have beaks.

Randy, you are right, it's meant to be a pleasure.  I do like to stand out there and ponder and observe, and putter. People would think I'm crazy if they knew I was thinking, "Those are some handsome potato plants there!"

Horse chestnut tree.

Someone brought a bouquet of yellow roses in to work once, and I took one home to grow as a cutting.  It's never grown huge, but blooms reliably every year. That's been about 15 years now.

Alliums.  They started as one bulb.  Every few years, I dig them up, separate the  bulbs, and replant them.  Now, purple globes of alliums pop up in various parts of the yard.

I thinned apples to about 6 inches apart, so they will be bigger and maybe earlier. These are Jonathans. My parents had a Jonathan apple tree. I'm anxious to see if I like them now like I did, growing up.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 30, 2017 at 7:15am

Daniel, gardening is suppose to be enjoyable. So, yes, you might need to cut back on some things. I'll sit in a lawn chair to allow my lunch to digest, but before 5 minutes are gone, I see a job that "can't wait". That's no way to relax. Nice photos, by the way.

I planted two more rows of corn yesterday. I like to stagger plantings to lengthen the season. However, my earlier plantings are a total failure. The cold and wet spring has caused the seeds to rot, evidently.

 

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