Godless in the garden


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Comment by kathy: ky on September 20, 2017 at 8:01am
I'm always surprised at the difference in temps in our various areas. We probably won't get frost until mid October. Sometimes later. Our daily temp's are still getting in the mid eighties. Nights vary from upper 70s to low 50s. With the exception of last week when we dropped to the upper 40s during a week of cold rain.
The sunflowers died during that brief spell but the elephants ears grew larger and got greener.

I pruned several rose of Sharon bushes during the spring and threw the small limbs off to the side of the bed. Now I have more than twenty new starts of them. It must be the high humidity here that let's plants start so easily.
Comment by Randall Smith on September 20, 2017 at 6:57am

Good to have you back, Daniel. I wish I could grow kumquats here.

I planted a bag of 20 tulip bulbs the other day (from Aldi of all places!) They had daffodils, too. Maybe next visit.

Joan, you might be interested to know that SIL Nate spent a week in New York state and into Canada touring vegetable farms with a group from Purdue. He said it was interesting, a mix of good and not so good operations. I'm sure he'll benefit from the experience. And I hope he'll write about the trip in his Silverthorn farm newsletter. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 20, 2017 at 5:56am

No frost here yet.  Right now it's 40 F, the coldest so far.  37 F is predicted for the next couple of days.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 20, 2017 at 5:54am

Joan, I think I will put another layer of plastic around my avocado tree.  I already have posts that I can attach it to, that will keep it from touching anything else.  That will give another insulating air pocket.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 20, 2017 at 5:51am

Interesting treatment and response of your lemon tree Daniel.  It gave me ideas about growing some trees that I desire.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2017 at 2:16pm

We had a frost the other night that took out our geranium blossoms. I will winter the plants in our heated garage where all the water equipment is kept at just above freezing. In the winter, our drinking water is ice cold; summer water is tepid. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2017 at 2:12pm

Spud, I watched a video the other day, you know the homesteading videos I like so much. This fellow put a heavy duty plastic over his hoop frame on top of the plastic cover he already had. He is from Canada; he expected to be able to save some of the kale and spinach using this double plastic cover.

It might work for your avacado tree. 

Larry put a lemon and an orange tree in the greenhouse the first summer, expecting to have above freezing temperatures through our winter. It didn't take long for the trees to die and everything else died, even the spinach from the cold. I grow kale as a winter crop and we can eat from it longer than anything else we tried. 

We need more heat in the greenhouse and tried more solar panals, more batteries, electric, then propane heat sources and they were more expensive and the kale wasn't all that desirable. I used it for compost and it does give minerals to the pile. So, it isn't a waste of time to seed and grow and harvest it. 

Now, we just close up the greenhouse for the winter. We will try more solar panels in the future. It will take some time to find what works. We don't have enough sun in northern WA state. Colorado has more winter sun and they can make it through the winter with added heat sources. I talked to the owner of the firm that makes our greenhouse and we continue to experiment. 

Maybe, through GMO, we will be able to grow tomatoes through the winter. However, we are a GMO free family, so I doubt they would go for GMO seeds. 

Comment by Patricia on September 19, 2017 at 1:23pm

We've began our frost finally here too, & its weird to have it cooler, with some fog, & still occasionally smoky.

I think Rick said there is one more melon in the greenhouse so hopefully its ok.

Comment by Idaho Spud on September 19, 2017 at 6:19am

Cold weather has finally arrived, so I put greenhouse plastic on the ends of my A-frame around my avocado tree.  

It's supposed to withstand temperatures down to 30 degrees F, so the little greenhouse I built around it will probably not be sufficient when temperatures get down to negative 10 degrees.  I probably should put a heater in it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 18, 2017 at 12:24pm

Daniel, your photos evoke happy memories of my Spokane garden and know that 41 years of enriching the soil paid off in delights to all the senses, for me and for those who visit. 

Thanks for not taking down this site, my "Go To First" each morning. 

Thanks, also, for your statement, "the appropriate place for a discussion on lectins or other dietary fads (see Jewish World Review article) (or Washingotn Post), would be in a group on health, or diet, or something like that, or No Nonsense.  Not here, please, and preferably not in the food group, which is meant to be about enjoyment, not fear."

Your statement clearly defines your site and what is and is not acceptable here and in the Food Group. I appreciate your clarity and specificity. 

I will report that wild turkeys love sunflower seeds. I scatter a handfull in the meadow each morning and by early afternoon the turkey flock arrives and gives the ground a thorough inspection. They even scratch out some of the weeds.

OOPPSS wrong photo. Deer like sunflower seeds, too. I have given up hope of gardening in those raised beds. I just do not have the energy or strength to do the work and no one else shows any interest. I spend my time in the greenhouse. Maybe next summer I will have more energy (dream on) and I even love going into the greenhouse when it is 100°F inside. That is when it feels good to leave the greenhouse. I don't have current photos in there. I will get shots of what is left ... not much. 


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