Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Daniel W on May 12, 2015 at 10:35pm
Kathy, on Apples, you DO need a pollenizing variety. it depends on which one you have, and which ones your neighbors have. There are some that are multigrafts. Because those have more than one variety, they do not need another. There are various websites and nurseries that recommend which ones to pkant near each other. Raintree nursery is one but there are others.
Comment by Daniel W on May 12, 2015 at 9:43pm
Wow, they grow fast. I think they'll be ready tomorrow or thursday.

Comment by Daniel W on May 12, 2015 at 2:43pm

Joan, I am just glad you are safe and happy, and with your loving family.

If they have a chance, and are so inclined, I hope your family can take some of the starts that you lovingly transfered from your grandmother's and others' places.  I recall Iris and Lilac, I think.  Your great grandchildren may one day appreciate the connection to generations long past.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 12, 2015 at 12:43pm

Joan, best of luck with your move!

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2015 at 7:50am

Randy, Joan moving surprised me also, but with such good family support, is probably for the best.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 12, 2015 at 7:37am
Joan, you always have so much to say, and your news about moving surprised me. At my age (72), I think about the time when I'll have to leave my home of (now) 38 years. I'm not sure I'll have the same positive attitude you have. Here's wishing you the best of luck--and love.
(Chris: "dancing house" is a good description!)

Kathy, apple trees are self-pollinating (with bees), so you shouldn't have any trouble with fruiting.
Comment by Plinius on May 12, 2015 at 6:56am

Good plans, Joan, and it seems to me that you picked the right time for a move. I'm glad you have got such a wonderful family to take care of you and that you have many things to share with the young ones. I hope you won't miss your dancing house!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 11, 2015 at 6:23pm

Patricia, I agree. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 11, 2015 at 5:44pm

Sorry, my comment includes the last paragraph directed to Larry. I tried reposting the message as I wanted it and the comment section would not accept it. So! Ignore the last paragraph. 

However, I do have a link to the greenhouse:

Geodesic Growing Dome Greenhouse

Spud, yes, I am bringing a lot of stuff from my Spokane garden to this one. Laura created a "Generation Garden" that includes plants from both of my grandmothers' gardens. Six generations, including my grandmothers' down through my great-grandchildren, has representation in it. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 11, 2015 at 5:32pm

I came to Laura's when I broke my arm and ribs on April 9 and am slowly bringing things from home. 

A day or so after coming to Laura's I developed a blocked bowel caused by hydrocodone. Laura had to help me in ways I would never ask Cary to do. She did an excellent job and after another trip to the Newport E.R., I was admitted and spent the next week in utter misery. After they had inserted the tube to empty my fecal matter through my nose, I began to feel some relief. Slowly, the broth was added to my diet, then custard. Another day to see if dry toast would pass through me, and it did. 

It is clear I am no longer able to drive because the doctors think I may have had seizures that caused the falls. I don't think so, but I put my car keys on the table and agreed not to drive until I have gone six months without a fall. 

In the meantime, I observed my daughter and her family unable to get a vegetable garden started. Because of our usually short summers, I agreed to supervise preparing soils and planting starts from the nursery and sowing some seeds for salads. My grandkids know nothing of eating from a garden and the best way to teach them is to be out there with them. My great-grandkids seem more eager to help than I expected. Jacob, the 16-year-old, has been a great help. He strung a  pipe from a hose bib to the terrace and placed a soaker hose so we could get water to the new plants. The six-year-old helped pick the vegetables he wants. 

Larry ordered a greenhouse that we can use in the winter to grow greens with the help of some lights. 

John Denver started a research project in Colorado to produce foods all year long in the cold and dark of his winters. The project collapsed when he died. Others have taken up the enterprise and designed and built "Bucky" geodome greenhouses, following Buckminster Fuller's design. 

Larry just sent me an email from the manufacturer dated today at 2:21. It is now 2:22: 

"Hi Larry, Your 18' Geodesic Growing Dome Greenhouse is scheduled to ship out on July 8th."

So, the process of moving from my home of 41 years to my new home in Larry's and Laura's progress. Cary hasn't decided where he wants to live after we sell the house. He has agreed to stay in our home until sold. Larry and Laura welcome here and suggested building a small home for him on their 17-acre property. However, he likes the city life. Wherever he chooses, we will help him get settled. 

A new era begins in my life. Even with all the recent illnesses, I feel these Golden Years as precious. 

Hi Larry,

Your 18' Growing Dome Greenhouse is scheduled to ship out on July 8th.  I have the shipping address and contact informations as follows:


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