Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Idaho Spud on May 30, 2015 at 9:12am

Congratulations Randall. 

I hadn't planned on planting any potatoes in my small garden, but I found one with a few leaves growing in my truck full of compost, so I placed it in the garden in a pile of the compost.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 30, 2015 at 7:16am

Got him!  At least one (mole).

Comment by Randall Smith on May 29, 2015 at 7:14am

Daniel, persimmon blooms come late. But I do have apricots! I sprayed them--hoping to keep them worm free. And I have almonds, but no nectarines. Ah, the whims of nature.

My garden mole is driving me crazy! I've caught 3 in the act, but there are at least 2 more pillaging the underground. Must have been a family at one time. And my $20 trap has yet to earn a penny. I just use the old fashion shovel.

Oh yes, and I received a perfect inch of rain two days ago in an isolated T-storm that missed just about everybody else. My godless garden says HA!

Comment by Daniel W on May 28, 2015 at 8:54pm

Grow 6,000 pounds of food on 1/10 of an acre per year, in Los Angeles. 

Most of us can't even think about that due to widely different climate.  But it's interesting to think about it.

Barbara, glad you are getting lots of rain.  It's about time! 

Randy, no woe!  You have a beautiful place!  I hope your persimmons are getting ready to bloom.  Mine smallest ones have flower buds, but at this stage of growth, I expect the flowers to fall off.  The Yates American Persimmon is only in its first year, and the Nikita Gift American-Asian hybrid is about 3 years old, but only 4 foot tall.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 28, 2015 at 7:56am

The rain makes pulling weeds easier ... and our area lakes are once again filling to capacity.  A few days of sunshine should bring on more fruiting in my garden. :) 

Daniel, Ning's bee meadow of last year is the inspiration for mine.  With all the rain, I have plenty of plants just no blossoms yet. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 27, 2015 at 7:30am

Daniel, again, I'm reduced to jealousy and envy. Why do you torture us so? Magnificent photos of a beautiful setting. Woe is me.

Comment by Daniel W on May 26, 2015 at 7:33pm

Joan, you are right of course!  That one is pallida variegata.

It's interesting, those irises look much better in the photo than they do in person.  I think I understand now how to grow them here - its simple, if you don't know too much.  I followed all of the rules, and got tons of leaf spot and bacterial rot.  I had others I planted in the fence row and forgot, and they did fine.   Next, year, maybe they will thrive.

Joan are you planting seeds in containers or in the soil?  I know what you mean about some plants not able to handle the chill.

This year I gave up on okra - needs way more sun  and heat that I can give it here.  But I am trying sun-and-heat-loving sweet corn.  There are some varieties reports as much faster than most.  I planted Early Sunglow Hybrid - 63 days to yield, and Trinity Hybrid - 64 days.  In this climate they may take 50% or more longer, but I have room.  I planted in containers and then transplanting the plants outside - something that would have been laughed at in my midwest farm town, but they have warmer soil and longer season.

Your new place sounds wonderful.  Like little house in the forest.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 26, 2015 at 1:33pm

After all that HOT weather, we are now having April showers. Too cold for seeds to sprout. I will probably have to reseed everything I started the last weeks. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 26, 2015 at 10:13am

Don, what a magnificent progression of your garden. Your temperatures must be at least as cold as it is in Newport, WA. We had unusually hot weather and now a streak of near freezing and rain. I'm sure the seeds can't decide whether to sprout or stay dormant. 

Daniel, your iris look stunning! What a beautiful variety you have. It looks like you have some iris pallida variegata. 

I like Ning's Bee Meadow. It looks as I would like to see in our bare ground. I will nurture the soils and attempt to create such a place of beauty. Please tell Ning that I like his plan and will try to duplicate it. 

We are still in a messy phase of gardening. Because we took out so many trees for a fire break, disturbing the soil, and creating a place for the greenhouse has made a greatly disordered area to be restored. The soil is pure sand with an occasional streak of clay. I tested the soil pH, 7+- throughout. 

My fall and bout with a blocked bowel knocked the wind out of my sails, even more than the cancer. I have some challenge to get busy, however, yesterday, with clippers in hand, I trimmed up some of the forest edges and loved every minute of it. I came in very weary and satisfied. The fire danger declines with each of our activities, making me feel safe and secure in my new forest home. 

Bird feeding stations all along the woods edge should draw in some birds. I play song-bird tapes during the day. We live very close to the headwaters of the Little Spokane River, and the Pend O'Reille Lake and River and dozens of little lakes left over from the Ice Age and Missoula Flood surround our property. Deer, elk, moose, and an occasional brown bear and bobcat wander through. 

Dominic, this splendid black Lab stays by my side wherever I am, in the forest or the home. He leaves me only to check on my new little great-granddaughter, Brooklyn. She is now ten months old and almost walking. 

I am content here. 

iris pallida variegata

Comment by Plinius on May 26, 2015 at 9:42am

Fantastic! Your bee meadow is so beautiful!


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