Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 16, 2015 at 2:34am

I am doing an experiment with different fertilizers trying to revive the poor performance of those I planted and that survived. They have not grown at all, have no pods, and have lots of yellow color ... a sign of not enough nitrogren. I spread composted manure on part of them, some I mulched heavily, and the last group I am going to use Kelp meal and foliar spray on them. I'll let you know if I kill them all with my experimentations. I definitely have to mulch heavily and I chose a steer manure and compost mix. 

We have huge piles of slash turned into chipped wood. Because it is conifer slash, we will creat a mineral imbalance that I will correct, or try to correct next spring. The problem now is just to get a lot of manure, compost and wood chips worked into the ground. Turning sand into soil is like turning straw into gold. There is a certain amount of alchemy taking place, sadly not chemisry. 

Comment by k.h. ky on July 16, 2015 at 12:51am
Barbara, what type of milkweed did you plant? And do you know what kind of soil it's best suited for?

HOT? Our temps are in the nineties with humidity to match. I spent ten minutes in the yard yesterday and the had to come in and shower. My hair and clothes were soaked from that short amount of time outdoors. And I was in full shade after six pm.
Comment by k.h. ky on July 16, 2015 at 12:51am
Barbara, what type of milkweed did you plant? And do you know what kind of soil it's best suited for?

HOT? Our temps are in the nineties with humidity to match. I spent ten minutes in the yard yesterday and the had to come in and shower. My hair and clothes were soaked from that short amount of time outdoors. And I was in full shade after six pm.
Comment by Idaho Spud on July 15, 2015 at 9:05am

Barbara, Rats as a garden pest is a new on on me!  I assume your neighbor has a snake to eat the rats.  

On second thought, years ago I saw a program on TV that talked about the rat problem in India.  Every 50 years, the Bamboo flowers and goes to seed.  Due to this great food supply, the rat population increases to the tens of millions.  After they've consumed all the Bamboo seeds, they start on the native's crops.  Huge problem. 

Daniel, and Randy, I've eaten figs from the supermarket that were not dried, and was not impressed, but figs ripe off the tree a probably delicious, the same as most fruit.  And, thanks for the congrats Randy.

Joan, I enjoy your stories.  The wild Turkeys caught my imagination this time.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on July 15, 2015 at 7:45am

Randall, finally!  I saw one!  A vole that is. I was watering yesterday morning and the little bugger appeared from under a plant. I have to admit he was cute in spite of the damage I know he can do.  My immediate thought was to buy a trap - but then what do I do with him if I catch him - I can't put in my trash bin. 

Joan, kelp fertilizer? Do you use it for everything?

Comment by Barbara Livingston on July 15, 2015 at 7:35am

Joan, I'm looking forward to seeing pics of your greenhouse. As I begin planning for my fall garden, I'm also thinking about some way of starting plants for next spring. Spud's cold frame seems a good way to go, and of course a greenhouse would be wonderful.

My foray into growing cucumbers brought much excitement over the number of blossoms, but, like you many of mine didn't develop into actual cucumbers. Today I'm harvesting the last of my butternut squash and I'm looking forward to a nice bowl of butternut soup!

Comment by Randall Smith on July 15, 2015 at 7:28am

Hurray for you, Spud! Keep up the good work, both in dieting and gardening.

Joan, I hope you'll snap a few pictures showing progress of your greenhouse. It might inspire me to build one. I need a wintertime activity.

Barbara, of all things--rats! Mercy. I had 4 nectarines on my tree before I pruned it and accidentally knocked them off. I was so disgusted with myself. I pruned my two apricot trees, too. I refuse to prune my apple trees, and they are loaded. My yellow transparents are just about ripe. I make lots of apple sauce.

Daniel, I don't think I've ever had a "real" fig. Curious how different they are from dried. I enjoy your photos and try not to become envious. Thanks for the tip on tying up sweet corn. I've tried sprinkling them with pepper, but to no avail. I think having the dog outside is the secret.

Happy gardening, all!

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 15, 2015 at 1:09am

The greenhouse shipment arrived Monday. Larry has been having problems with his leg and spine and is not able to do the construction. You may remember that he had polio as a two year old and wears a brace on his leg and has special shoes made to accommodate his one leg being several inches shorter than the other. His spine takes to toll from the crippled leg. One of the fellows from the Dist 8 Volunteer Fire Dist will be doing the constrution. 

There are several blossoms on a cucumber plant and I doubt they will have season enough to mature. 

My order of kelp fertilizer arrived today and we want to see if we can salvage something from this year's seeding. 

The photos of gardens and produce inspires me to get really ready for next spring. I should have a decent garden next year and will have early starts in the greenhouse. 

A couple dozen wild turkeys wandered through the ground we recently cleared for fire prevention. The ground is still rough from the tractor.The birds seem to be finding a lot of good things to eat. We will be sowing clover and wild flowers in that spot after we finish the heavy equipment use.  

Comment by Barbara Livingston on July 14, 2015 at 8:10pm

All I can say is I'm impressed with all these wonderful pictures - and I'm doubly impressed with the harvests y'all are producing.  It is simply hot here, everything except sweet potatoes is done, done, done. I am enjoying my herb garden - pasta with pesto sauce. Daniel, your fruit is simply mavahlous!!!

Spud, jealousy is not a pretty thing so I won't talk about your diet results. (';')

I learned today what is really eating our stuff - rats! Can you imagine, and feral ones to boot. They are black and white. Guy who lives on street behind me has a huge snake, need I say more?  One neighbor lost all her figs, and another her tomatoes, and here I was moaning about three necatrines. 

From the one milkweed I planted last year, and saved the seeds, I now have many new plants and they are in bloom - and today I saw my first Monarch. I didn't think they would come up so I waaaay over planted.  Even after thinning them I have many plants. My one true success. :) 

Comment by Daniel W on July 14, 2015 at 7:55pm

Getting something every couple of days.  I like that.


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