Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: 20 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 10, 2016 at 10:55am

Every morning at breakfast, I share 10 minutes with the Justin Rhodes family, a young homesteading family. They specialize in chickens and have turkeys, cows, and vegetable gardens. With a great sense of humor and four young kids that they call, "chitlins", they take on the challenges of family life with joy for living that sparks me to get off my backside and go do a chore with a  smile on my face and a hum.

I can only work for up to an hour, and my back gives out. With a cup of coffee, a little rest, I can take on another task. 

This video is an interview with them by another homesteading family. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 10, 2016 at 10:53am

Looks like it's covering Europe and now starting to cover the USA.

Comment by Plinius on July 10, 2016 at 9:10am

It's coming after you, Spud! The site says it started in Italy....


Comment by Idaho Spud on July 10, 2016 at 8:41am

I don't think I've seen Cymbalaria here Chris.  It's an attractive plant, but from what you say, I won't bring any home if I see any.

I like your other pictures also, especially your kitty in front of 2 of my favorite plants, fern & poppies.

Comment by Plinius on July 10, 2016 at 7:49am

This morning's pictures

Cymbalaria muralis - it grows on old brickwork and embankments, but when I took a piece home it invaded everything!

lavender, mint and lespedeza burgerilaurel, fern, poppies, lemon balm and Luna

Comment by k.h. ky on July 9, 2016 at 3:13pm
Chris, beautiful hollyhocks. I had some lovely black ones for several years until one of my rottweilers dug them out. Sorry the other stuff drowned. We're having the same problem with rain.
Joan thanks for the links. I learn a lot from this site. There's a wild raspberry bush in my front yard. The girls eat all the berries as they ripen. I may put a tame one in the same area and see what happens.
I thought about putting moonflower vines on the hugely bed but since it only blooms at night it wouldn't be a big plus for bee and butterflies.

Daniel I forget that we all have different planting zones and hadn't thought to google it.
Comment by Joan Denoo on July 9, 2016 at 2:54pm

Thanks Daniel for your information on tayberries.  

I Googled: Plants for Pollinators in the Inland Northwest

and Plants for Pollinators in Spokane, WA 

Plants for Pollinators in Spokane, WA

Comment by Plinius on July 9, 2016 at 2:01pm

When I read your answers I notice how much my thinking is influenced by living in a three room apartment and a small roof garden - for me a wooded bank is big and for you it is far too small. Very funny!

Thanks for the pruning links, Joan, they're very instructive!

I'm not much of a cook, Daniel, but some mint leaves make a pleasant surprise in a salad, together with nasturtium flowers and whatever else you happen to find. The best about the mint is the smell, it drowns out even the stench of the cars twelve meters down in the street. Perhaps it's not even wise to eat what I grow here, but I don't want to worry about it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 9, 2016 at 12:51pm

Chris, your photo of your garden is lovely. I like the color of your hollyhock. The berry plant sent me on a hunt, and I learned something I did not know. Surely I learned it in my horticulture courses a hundred years ago or so at Washington State University where my major was horticulture. However, it is new to me now.   

"Brambles respond significantly to pruning and cane management, but these practices can be the most expensive and time-consuming part of an operation. There is no one procedure for all bramble types. Each type requires its approach to pruning and cane management."

Cane management in raspberries blackberries


~ Pruning Raspberries and Blackberries, Cornell University 


Both cane management articles include both primocane and floricane 

These excellent articles on cane management come at a right time for me. My neighbor and I agreed to take out all the ivy. He rebuilt my wooden fence that fell, and I plan to replant raspberries all along the property line. He hated the ivy, agrees with the raspberries. 

You inspire me to get out into my garden and stop being a slug. 

Comment by Daniel W on July 9, 2016 at 12:51pm

Joan, Tayberries are a cross between blackberry and raspberry.

Kathy, I don't know a vine for your purpose.  Not kudzu!  :-)

I looked up bee plants on a variety of websites before planting here.  I also went to local nurseries and hung out watching which plants were the bees foraging there. wikipedia has a good list, along with whether plants are minor or major sources.  I forgot about sumac, which I also planted along my property edge.

It's not a vine, but clovers can do really well. 


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