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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

Discussion Forum

DIY Green House and a Chicken Coop?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Saturday. 2 Replies

Cover crops: Gabe Brown

Started by Joan Denoo on Wednesday. 0 Replies

Geodesic Dome Greenhouses

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 17. 1 Reply

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Comment by Idaho Spud on March 5, 2017 at 9:51am

I expect the pomegranate tree to grow here.  I'm planting it on the south side of the house where it will get lots of heat.  Before winter, I'll build a greenhouse over it to keep it from dying in the cold months.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 5, 2017 at 7:22am
I don't dilute my urine. I figure rain will do that. Asparagus is very hardy. Plus I've heard it is salt resistant. I was going to quit spreading pee this summer, but with Daniel's info, I may continue.

Spud, I wish I could supply you with black walnuts. They are ubiquitous around these parts. True, it takes some time and effort to remove the meat, but very much worth it.
Comment by Daniel W on March 4, 2017 at 10:30pm

Randy, I don't know if the salt will kill your weeds.  If it does, maybe it would kill the asparagus?  I dilute 1 liter of pee with 4 liters water, and use a watering can to spread that over about 10 feet by 10 feet square.  Then I move on to the next area.  For high nitrogen plants like sweet corn, I do that every month until a few weeks before harvest.  Onions are also high nitrogen users, so they get a few of doses too.  For trees, I do that once or twice only, late winter and early spring.  Not summer - I don't want to stimulate growth that will not harden off before winter.

Spud, that's ambitious.  Will the pomegranate grow there? 

The trouble with black walnuts is they produce substances from the roots that inhibit growth of a lot of other plants.  That might be good for a walnut grove, but in a garden it might not be so good.  I don't know about butternuts.

I planted the first of 3 planned chestnut saplings today.  I feel inspired, like they link me somehow to some amazing looking trees.  Links, since these images are copyrighted. 

American Chestnut, Tennessee, 1932.

American Chestnut, Tennessee, 1933

American Chestnut, N Carolina, about 1909.

American Chestnut, W Virginia, 1924

These remind me of massive redwood trees, except they are east coast and deciduous.  There are also some ancient European chestnuts, like the "100 horses chestnut tree" in Sicily, thought to be 2,000 to 4,000 years old.

I'll be happy if mine reach 20 foot tall while I'm alive.  They might - I cant find estimates of growth rate, but they are considered fast growers.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 4, 2017 at 2:39pm

I'm going to purchase another Pomegranate tree this year, and not from Burpee.  It was bare-root and never had one leaf.  This year I'm buying one growing in a pot from plantmegreen.com  It costs $77 with shipping.

I was considering buying a Black Walnut, but have decided not to for 3 reasons.  It would make a large part of my small garden space toxic for a lot of other plants, I would probably get very lazy about picking out the meat, and it would probably take a long time to produce.

A couple of days ago, I received 5 pounds of black walnut meat that cost me $10/pound.  It tastes good, so that will have to do me for now.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 4, 2017 at 7:35am

When we occasionally write/converse about silly (dare I use the word "inane"?) things in some of our groups, I often wonder what newcomers think. But then again, who cares(?).

Randy or Randall, I respond to either, the latter being more formal and how I sign my name. So Tom it is. Happy to read your comments here.

To answer Daniels question about my "Indiana yard": it's on hold. We had a cold snap this past week, even an inch of the white stuff overnight. I have started peeing in a bucket for my garden. Asparagus ground is getting the majority of it now. It'll be coming up in a month or so. I'm thinking (dangerous) the nitrogen will be good for it, and the salt will kill the weeds and grasses. Yes? 

Comment by Daniel W on March 3, 2017 at 10:55am

Tom, I don't think there is anyone regular with your first name here.  What you go by is your choice, but I think it's fine to use either your given name.  Or Tom M would make it less likely to see confusion if another doubter should become more active.

Thanks to you, I put up 2 hummingbird feeders.  I shopped around, the prices vary widely, mine were $5 and $10 on sale at local stores.  Already the hummingbirds are flying to them frequently.  Very cool to watch them.  I wonder what they were eating on the worst winter days, especially with snow cover.

Comment by Thomas Murray on March 3, 2017 at 10:32am

Randal,

I am called Tom (and a few of other explicit names) locally, however there a couple of other Tom's here on Nexus. If I were to be called Ton here on Nexus It might cause confusions of which Toms here we are referring to. Lemme think what other name I could use.

Decades ago, when I was a grounds keeper, one of my client had a humming bird feeder. During lunch break I would sit and watch the  dogfights between the humming birds and the bees battling over the feeder.  It's amazing how the birds outmaneuvered the bees.

Comment by Daniel W on March 3, 2017 at 9:41am

Randy, Ning is back and I am busier with him here than with him gone.  However, with him gone I did things more on my own time.  I also do most of the chores since retiring.

Actually, writing on A/N is just a break, like taking a coffee break.   I like checking in with my friends here and see what you and others are up to. 

Yesterday - figured out the spots where I'll plant the chestnut trees when they come.  For one, I'll need to move some tree branches that are piled up to cut for firewood.  Planted 3 more cypress trees, in a row meant to give privacy, shade against re-invasion of blackberries, and protect soil from erosion near the small ravine.  Also dug last years' bed that had radishes, cabbages, onions, for the next batch of potatoes.

Tomorrow going to a home orchard society class about pruning fig trees.  Mostly to see if there are any new hints, and to get out of my yard and house.

How are things in your Indiana yard?

Maybe of interest to Joan, here is an article about finding 2 historic apple varieties near Spokane.  They had been lost, but apple trees live a long time so if someone knows their apples, they can be rediscovered.  There's alsoa guy in Maine who does that.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 3, 2017 at 7:46am

Daniel, I don't know how you find time to both "garden", read, and write here at A/N. Do you sleep only 4 hours? Has Ning returned?

Comment by Daniel W on March 2, 2017 at 6:24pm

Only peripherally related to gardening, an article about Ancient Amazonian's cultivation of trees, leading to dominance of some useful species even to today. 

I've read about human re-forming the Amazon prior to Western contact, and it's always interesting to dwell on how much native Americans changed their world by their forms of gardening and farming.

Maybe some day, when our civilization has passed the landscape will carry our memory in the form of plant species that will persist, evolve, and reach a new equlibrium.

 

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